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#1 minilee94

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:58 PM

Is this primary gear okay iv been told its okay jut want to check as the bearing don't actully touch the crank as a 3 thou feeler gauge fits between the gear and the crank and once a film oil is round the bearing and crank it will protect it

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:02 PM

I don't even understand how that damage could happen.  I certainly wouldn't use it on my crank.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:04 PM

I don't know either was a 2nd hand gear an that bit that's damaged don't touch te crank

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:11 PM

Well, I'd hope there's not much oil around there or it'll be getting through that 0.003" gap and onto your clutch.  It's a dry-running bush.

 

I'd replace it, the new fully-floating bush from Minispares is only about £20.  I'd fit that instead and be sure.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:13 PM

http://www.minispare.../C-AEA3240.aspx



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:19 PM

Erm yeah I knew that lol :)

I forgot a seal sits on other side of that gear

Cheers are they a pain is the yaris to change

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:20 PM

I need a bush for an a+ and that hasn't got the big lip

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:37 PM

Is it ok...



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:58 PM

I was only asking as I got told it was okay

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:03 PM

By the guy that sold it?



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:04 PM

Yes I won't mention who on here as he may well of not known it was as bad as this and he knows what he is on about and is well known

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:08 PM

He may also not know it was knackered to be honest.  This is the problem with Mini spares changing hands so often. It might even be something that he was sold and told it was OK too.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:22 PM

Maybe but he would of know he is very good but oh we'll il get a new bush and that's that I just need to know about what speedo drive to fit been over a month now and I still dont know

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:29 PM

That's not OK, it should touch the crank, and sadly it's not a candidate for the floating bush.  The end you are showing is the flanged bushing.  The floating bush is just a "ring" and it goes in the other end of the gear.

 

There was a thread back in March which discussed how to size the primary gear bushings for the correct running clearance.  I cannot quote the figure from memory but the clearance is less than 0.003" and to be done right the machine shop that installs the replacement bush needs to bore it to match the diameter of your engine's crank.

 

Depending on the condition of the gear teeth and your budget that primary gear may be a candidate for reconditioning but I would not use it as it currently is.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:35 PM

Aaaah, of course Doug.  The 'rear' bush and 'front' bush confused me.  This is the rear bush, I thought it was front!






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