Ive found a set of fors BBS alloys what I think would look great on a mini for a reasonable price. Can they be used or will the offset be too much ? As they have a 108mm stud pattern so will need spacers...
Forgive me if im not making much sense or anything cause im new to everything reguarding cars..
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AndyWilk
, Nov 17 2013 09:49 PM
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Posted 18 November 2013 - 09:47 PM
Ive found a set of fors BBS alloys what I think would look great on a mini for a reasonable price. Can they be used or will the offset be too much ? As they have a 108mm stud pattern so will need spacers...
Forgive me if im not making much sense or anything cause im new to everything reguarding cars..
They will not fit. You are confusing different specific values. The offset of the wheel is where the mounting face of the wheel meets the hub in relation to the center of the wheel.
The stud pattern is called 'PDC'. The PCD of a mini is 4x4", or 4x101.6mm.
If you ever wanted to fit these you would have to consider a few things. Is the offset and size of the wheel ideal for the mini's body shape? You could potentially have the mini PCD drilled, but i doubt that.
Your best bet if you're after wheels, and you're not too knowledgeable would be to try and find a set of wheels deigned for the mini. There are quite a few styles out there, and thats a good starting point if you've only just started to take an interest in the car scene. I'm not trying to preach, just take it easy, you have more time than you think :)
Also welcome to the forum
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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:57 AM
Offset has everything to do with rim width. The wider the wheels, the more negative the offset needs to be so they don't fowl on the suspension arms and shocks
12x6 Mini wheels are normally around the +4 offset
13x7 Mini wheels are normally around the -7 offset.
If you are adding a spacer to convert the PCD you'll be reducing the offset.
E.g. 13x7 Ford wheels with +15 offset with 20mm spacers added will end up being a total offset of -5mm (about right)
If you use something like the following, you can play around with the figures to see if they will fit
http://www.1010tires...culator#Results
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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:39 PM
Oh thanks for your input people, someone tried explaining it to me last week and I didnt quite understand properly , il have a look and see what I want to do !
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Posted 19 November 2013 - 08:42 PM
You would need a PDC adapter, not a wheel spacer. Chances are an adapter will be thicker than 20mm, and wouldn't be easy to find. Unless they are more 'mainstream' fitments they are usually hand made.
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Posted 23 November 2013 - 06:28 PM
Listen to Yams, he knows his stuff when it comes to wheel styling. He schooled me last month.
I never mentioned this on the forum but I used to scour the internet for a set of smoothie rims, the ones with the baby moon hub caps like hot rods use. But after awhile I realized it just wasn't possible without some major complications.
In my experience, it's best to just go with what you've got and not mess with adapters or spacers. You're compromising a lot of safety with your wheels, which really should be the safest thing on the car. I mean, they're kind of important to the whole driving thing.
Maybe they will make smoothie 13s or cool Ford style rims with a 4x4 bolt pattern one day, but for now it's best to just get excited about Deepdish, Mambas, and Starmags because that's what you've got.
I never mentioned this on the forum but I used to scour the internet for a set of smoothie rims, the ones with the baby moon hub caps like hot rods use. But after awhile I realized it just wasn't possible without some major complications.
In my experience, it's best to just go with what you've got and not mess with adapters or spacers. You're compromising a lot of safety with your wheels, which really should be the safest thing on the car. I mean, they're kind of important to the whole driving thing.
Maybe they will make smoothie 13s or cool Ford style rims with a 4x4 bolt pattern one day, but for now it's best to just get excited about Deepdish, Mambas, and Starmags because that's what you've got.
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Posted 20 December 2013 - 10:07 PM
Ok thanks ! I've decided I'm going to decide and look when I get round to it, in hindsight I was jumping the gun because I seen the wheels come up !
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Posted 23 December 2013 - 07:52 PM
If the PCD is different from what you want you need to have a precision engineering company drill out the holes to the correct PCD for the Mini, which is 4".
You then have some special wheel bolts machined up with an outside diameter equal to the new hole bore diameters and with a loose special washer to hold the wheel in place. Look at a real Minilite wheel bolt to see how it works, but remember a Minilite whgeel bolt won't work as you will need special bolts machined up to suit. Cheap it won't be as a precision engineering company will charge probably more than each wheel is worth to set up and machine a new PCD.
Spacer/adapters are not a good idea.
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