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[freaker]

hello,

 

 

got a powerspark ignition this summer, complete distributor and everything, but now ive tried everything but the car wont start, 

model i got from them: 1 x 45D Austin Mini Sports Electronic distributor and Lucas Coil DLB105 (CS5
& D4 & R2) 

for a 1098 clubman estate

the distributor wont go in  completley, 

also trying to start the car will give me backfires true the carb, also turning the distributor then, wont result in firing up of the car....

 

anyone got any idea on this ? the old one i cant install back, as there is was a problem with that one....

 

i thought i saw a topic chere the little pin at the bottom was 180 degrees out ? 

 

freaker

 

edit: model distributor added

Edited by freaker, 22 February 2014 - 12:04 PM.

[jelboy89]

Pull the dizzy drive out of block and ensure the dizzy and it mate correctly. Put engine to tdc on cyclider 1 (take rocker to check it's cyclinder 1)Then when refiting put it so the slot is horizontal with the bigger lump to the top so when pushed in and meshed with cam gear it sits at a 45 deg angle. Now fit dizzy and roughly time it and it should fire, then abit of fettling should get it to run smoothly

Jerry

[freaker]

dizzy drive hasn`t bene out of the block, and it sparks... 

 

so it should run even on idle....

 

i think ?.

 

 

freaker

[jelboy89]

That is how to set it to factory specs when they first built the engine. You say it backfires which would mean the timing is well out

Jerry

[freaker]

yes i know of that, but that`s why i`m thinking the powerspark is the culprit of this whole story...

and while turning it from one side to the other while turning it over. it doens` start.. just when its turned left to the maximum it will let me it will turn over and almost start but it seems i cant go far enough, it whas setup on 6 degrees static timing

 

freaker

[Tamworthbay]

Have you got a set of points and a condensor you could drop in to check?

[freaker]

no thats the problem

 

looking or a 45d with point to test...

hard to find.

freaker

[jelboy89]

I'm guessing you have an A series engine and not an A+?

[freaker]

yes indeed

 

 

freaker

[jelboy89]

i would suggest doing as i stated above as you have fuel and spark, the only other issue would be if the spark was not powerful enough

 

jerry

[dklawson]

There is some missing information at this point regarding the ignition type that is on your car.  Is this a ballast or standard ignition?  If you don't know, at least post back with the number and color of wires on each coil terminal.  Are you using the original coil or did you buy a new one to go with the AccuSpark?  

 

For your own sanity, do not pull the distributor drive gear out of the block at this time.  While you collect the information I asked for above, you can also check the distributor position and static time the module as I list (as succinctly as possible) below.

 

1. Remove the valve cover and the spark plugs.
2. Place the gearbox in neutral and pull the engine over in the normal direction of rotation using the fan and fan belt.
3. Stop turning the engine when you can see piston #1 (water pump end of block) coming up to the top.  
4. Check that the rocker arms above that piston (arms 1 & 2) are both loose where you can wiggle them. 
5. If the rocker arms are NOT loose, turn the engine through one more complete revolution.   Stop when piston #1 is coming up to the top and rocker arms 1 & 2 are loose.  This will be NEAR where the timing needs to be set.
6. Continue turning the engine slowly until the pointer lines up somewhere between 5 to 8 degrees BTDC on the pulley.

 

1. Now fit the distributor to the block.  
2. Make sure the AccuSpark module is connected to power and the coil.
3. Connect a test light bulb between the coil (-) terminal and an earth on the engine block.
4. Turn on the ignition and return to the distributor.
5. Turn the distributor body COUNTERCLOCKWISE until the test light goes out.  Then turn about 10-20 degrees more.
6. Now turn the distributor body SLOWLY clockwise.  Stop turning the dizzy the second the test light turns on.
7. Switch off the ignition and tighten the distributor clamp.

You have now set the static timing.

 

1. Place the rotor on the distributor shaft if it is not already there.
2. Fit the distributor cap to the dizzy.  Make sure the cap is properly aligned with the dizzy body.  
3. Slowly pull the cap straight off without rotating it.  Look carefully at where the rotor is pointing on the distributor cap.
4. Place the first spark plug wire on the cap terminal where the rotor was pointing and run the other end of the wire to the spark plug for cylinder #1.
5. The firing order of the engine is 1-3-4-2 and the wires are connected COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the cap.  
6. Fit the remaining three plug wires in the sequence above.  (Next position CCW around the cap to spark plug #3, then next after that to cylinder 4....)

Regardless of where the dizzy drive gear is in the block, you have now positioned the wires correctly around the cap to maintain the proper firing order and  from the steps in the previous section you have set the static timing.  The engine should start and run now if the plugs, plug wires, cap, and rotor are all good AND there are no problems with fuel or compression.

[miniman_78]

Some time back I helped looking for the problem and I set the distributor as you discribed Doug but we didn't managed to get it running. I even tried with static timings from 4 till 12 without results 

[dklawson]

What type of ignition wiring (standard or ballast) is on the car and to where did you connect the ignition module's wires?

[freaker]

its a new wiring loom bought for my clubman estate from 1978.

 

its this loom i installed in my clubman https://www.minispar...|Back to search

 

the white wire coming out of the loom i connected to the + side of the coil also the red wire coming from the distributor and the black one on the - side of the coil...

 

freaker

[Dusky]

Get a helping hand to start the car while you are turning the dizzy= instant succes