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#1 danny1

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 04:44 PM

I've got what looks like an old lad on dizzy it has a red wire and a black wire which I know we're they connect but the blue one is confusing me a bit I'm not sure we're it's ment to go, a mate said it might be for a rev counter, would this be true?

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 05:48 PM

I think it would be very helpful if you would post a picture of your distributor with the dizzy cap removed.  If you cannot post a picture, perhaps you can find something online that looks similar (again with the cap removed) so we can see the wires.

 

In general, 3-wire devices are not like the AccuSpark, BritParts, Ignitor type modules which use 2 wires.  The 3-wire devices are traditionally units that use an external amplifier.  The wires coming out do not connect directly to power.  They typically receive power from their control box on two wires and then return an output signal on the 3rd wire to a switching device inside the remote amplifier.  



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Posted 23 February 2014 - 05:58 PM

I've looked online for one and I can't find one :/ it's a A series dizzy when you look at the dizzy on the inside behind the rotar arm is what looks like a cross it's made out of plastic then 3 wires coming out from it, I've never seen a dizzy like this
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Posted 23 February 2014 - 06:50 PM

get a pic of it;)

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 08:00 PM

Your reference to a cross and the presence of 3 wires sounds more and more like you may have a Lumenition or Crane/Alison ignition fitted to that distributor.  Take a look at the two pictures below.  Neither one is likely to be an exact match to what you have but do they look "similar"?  The pictures below are NOT Mini distributors so don't focus on that.  Just look at the general appearance of the components.

 

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 08:17 PM

The 2nd pic is what it looks like, although I have no vacume
On mine

I wish I could get a picture but I'm back on base and cats at home

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 08:27 PM

If it is like the one you identified then you need the electronic remote module which the trigger head connect to, I have my old Piranha Electronic Ignition in the workshop which is the same design and principle



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Posted 23 February 2014 - 08:53 PM

Oh for poop sake stupid dizzy right I'll have a look and see what I can get

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:47 PM

If it is Lumenition, you've got to make sure to get the right box too, they've got an old one and a new one, I seem to remember you tell the difference by the colour of the plug on the box, (red or white), but I can't remember which is which, :D, I seem to remember that some of the 'eyes' (the bit in the dizzy) weren't compatible with one of the boxes, so a little investigation and research will probably be required.

 

It's a Lumenition Optronic kit.



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 01:01 PM

Cheers guys I'm gonna get I. Contact with the guy I got it from and see how he was running it and see if he has the bit I need

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 01:35 PM

Right if I can't get hold of the rest of the box I should be able to remove it and just fit an electronic ignition shouldn't i ?

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 01:54 PM

Should be able to yes.



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 01:57 PM

Sweet I'm gonna do that as that system looks like a pain in the ass

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 03:11 PM

Yes mate here is the post on fitting a electronic kit into the distributor, with the 2 options on coil wiring http://www.theminifo...t-step-by-step/






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