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#1 MiniMan96

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:59 AM

Hello everyone, sorry if this has been covered already but i couldn't find the answer i was looking for.
My problem is that i have just spend £500 on new alloys for my mini project which has sportspack wheel arches they arrived yesterday and i have just tried one of them on but they rub against my coilovers.
As far as i know they have an offset of ET ideally i need them to fit without wheel spacers as ive been told it puts the bearings under too much strain i cant have the extra risk of my wheel studs snapping. I need it to be as safe as possible as the car will be getting a vtec engine soon.
I phoned minisport about this and i would have been better talking to a brick wall.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 11:12 AM

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Checkout the description of the wheels its got no technical info at all

#3 Bungle

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 11:18 AM

i would fit the spacers (plus longer studs)

 

spacers have a bad rep as the less well informed fit them to get the wide wheel look , moving the wheel out more than standard does then put more stress on everything (leverage )

 

all you are doing is moving your wheels that are more inset than standard out to where they should be

 

 

 


Edited by Bungle, 14 March 2014 - 11:19 AM.


#4 Gerbil367

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 11:34 AM

Ah, the Carlos Fandango wheels, loved that advert as a kid!  Always think of that when I see cars with wheels too wide.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 12:10 PM

Everyone seems to think that all wheel spacers will ruin your bearings, this is not correct. 

 

If your wheels are rubbing on your coil overs, you'll only need fairly short spacers to overcome this, maybe 5mm? You will definitely need lounger studs though, to ensure you have enough thread engagement to be safe. 



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 12:24 PM

Measure accurately and allow 6 mm clearance between tyre wall and suspension.

Make sure the wheel nuts have an engagement length on the studs of at least 1.5 x stud diameter or, ideally, slightly more than that. If using open nuts, as opposed to closed nuts, you need a minimum of 2 thread pitches sticking out of the end of the nut.

As with all engineering modifications involving safety related items, measure carefully and accurately and don't just guess.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 07:16 PM

Yes, the engineering matters very much, as Cooperman say, and as also suggested by HarrysMini, spacers may on occasion be necessary and will not overload the bearings if the problem is that the wheels have too much offset (it ought in my opinion to be called inset, because it is the distance in towards the centre of the car from hub mounting face to centre line of wheel), because the spacer will help to correct that. You will also need to be aware of what the wheels are doing to the scrub radius, with and without spacers, because if that is wrong, the handling will never be ideal.

 

Ideally, if they don't fit you should insist on your legal rights, they are not of merchantable quality or fit for purpose, and the supplier is entirely liable in law. If everyone returns stuff that is just plain wrong, certain suppliers would give up or go bust, and that would be a very good thing. Far too often, people (here and just about everywhere, I have done it myself) have accepted poor products or services, when we could and should have complained and got a refund.






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