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#1 Dog

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Posted 20 June 2006 - 08:59 PM

Ok, done almost everything I want to do to a Mini now... other than my Brakes....

I am looking at going for 4 pots.
I am also looking at some porn... AKA, KAD 4 pots!!
But what are these like compared to MiniSports? (MiniSport is really cheap ATM)

Also with upgrade in calapers, what sort of disks shall I get?

I don't fancy going though pads like no-one business, but still want a strong pedal!!
So would Blacstuff pads, and Vented disks, cope with some heavy braking?

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Posted 20 June 2006 - 09:04 PM

wheel size?

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Posted 20 June 2006 - 09:05 PM

13x7, 8.4" disks, unless someone does bigger, for more stopping power

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 08:49 AM

Solid discs and a decent pad (Mintex or blackstuff) will deal fine with any sort of fast road braking.

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 09:17 AM

dont go for vented unless you realy need the braking

vented disks weigh a lot more

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 04:08 PM

it says you are running a 1330? a decent 8.4" set up (good pads and poss grooved/drilled discs) will do you fine. if you do want 4pots, get a set of metro non-vented calipers to use with your mini 8.4" discs. the larger swept area will help but you won't have the extra weight of the vented discs. the metro non vented are much cheaper that the alloy jobbies.

metro vented is over kill for most minis - unless you are kicking out 120bhp plus

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 07:12 PM

Very true Maph, but this is Doggy......... :(

You do know KAD do 6-pots that only fit under 13s (and not 12s......)? :D Although I don't *think* the discs are actually any bigger than 8.4".

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 07:34 AM

are the kad 6pots race ones - there was a vauxhall engined mini a few years back built by Dereks Minis running 6 pots but theye had no piston seals (race versions) :(

theres another company out there that makes the separate discs and alloy bell housings - ther discs are huge and only go under 13's - pretty trick

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 07:55 AM

I heard these are a good way of putting the stoppers on.....

http://www.navstore....gga_anchors.asp


Anyway, er..... i had a sensible thing to say, but i can't remember it..... sorry



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Posted 22 June 2006 - 09:58 AM

if your that worried just cut a hole in the floor and buy a decent set of boots, when you need to stop !stomp! lol that may work lol
to be honest i think 6pots are a little bit over kill for a mini evan for a 1400? id say a decent set of groved discs and a decent set of pads you should be fine, id strongly recomend on not buying drilled, prone to cracking, not good. agree with maph2 a decent 8.4" set up should so u fine, think you should only be looking at the 6 pots if your doing a z-cars and evan then little ott.

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 10:01 AM

Yeah I think a good set of solid 8.4's with decent discs and pads would be fine.

I'm going to be running KAD 4-pots with 7.9" vented discs and Mintex pads with my Vauxhall conversion, and that should be ample (they're smaller too!) - the vented-ness only makes a difference against fade really, so solid ones should be fine for everyday use.

Oh yeah, and the KAD vs Minisport question....the Minisport ones are apparently an almost direct copy of the KAD calipers, only quite a bit cheaper. I think this is because they use a different grade aluminium (I think KAD's are 7075 or higher), and also the Minispares ones don't have the same sealing arrangement as the KAD ones, meaning they would be more susceptible to salt etc...

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 10:09 AM

Oh yeah, and the KAD vs Minisport question....the Minisport ones are apparently an almost direct copy of the KAD calipers, only quite a bit cheaper. I think this is because they use a different grade aluminium (I think KAD's are 7075 or higher), and also the Minispares ones don't have the same sealing arrangement as the KAD ones, meaning they would be more susceptible to salt etc...

so again if you want quality then go KAD but if your straped for can and are willing to keep servicing them go minisport?

could this go in the FAQ because a lot of people have/will ask this question, it been veryhelpfull for my in the future!

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 12:14 PM

MRA Minis do a massive big brake conversion dont they??

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Posted 23 June 2006 - 09:59 PM

Well tis me sorted....

Going to oder some KAD 4 pots, and some new disks (solids) and some blackstuff pads!

6pots are far toooooo much! Thou I might have a lookie into getting the rear disk conversion :D

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 01:03 AM

Well i've got EBC discs, rear shoes and greenstuff pads on my Mini and they made a hell of a difference over the ordinary standard stuff anyway.

I've not suffered any brake fade since fitting EBC products for a start, not that i've been really trying that hard mind. :D




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