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[Dr s]

Redshed is back from paint, I'm thinking about trying to do some more 12 cars and historic regularity rallying.
I've got a halda speedpilot, I'm thinking a pair of stop watches, a navigation light. A heliphos lamp for spotting the registration number sections on 12 cars.
Power for a Potti and a hook to hang it on.
Couple of pencil clips and a frame / clip for holding tulips / route cards.

The speedo doesn't have a trip, but the halda should sort that? Or do I need to find an external trip?

[Dr s]

The driver gets a motalita and a speedwell throttle pedal.
Lamps for 12 cars will be limited to a pair of extra beams, is that the same for historics? I have a lamp bar with a pair of lucas 5 3/4s and a pair of 700's. I assume I can just cover the small ones on 12 cars

[Tamworthbay]

Have you seen this thread:

http://www.theminifo...0-any-interest/

[rally1380]

Hi.

 

Not exactly sure what question you are asking, but the best thing to do is to look at what sort of events you intend on doing and look at their reg's....that will probably answer any questions you have.

 

I've done a few daytime HRCR 'regularity' rallies, and most crews use either a Brantz International 2 Pro or a Roamertime+ made by The Basic Roamer Co.  No reason why you shouldn't have success with Speedpilot though as long as you can easily calibrate it.

 

Spotlights - you are limited to 2 extra beams but some events don't allow any - check the regs for that one. To be honest I would remove any extra lights anyway as if you have an off you are going to smash all 4.

 

As for the Heliphos - nice period extra, but modern headtorches are much better and always at hand (or on the head).  With code boards we just lift up the potti and shine that at the board as it is in the hand anyway and one less thing to struggle to find in the dark.

 

Any questions just ask.

[Dr s]

Cheers rally1380. I guess at the moment I'm just trying to work out what needs to be in the navigators office so I can plan out a dash.

From what I've read above the stop watches are not necessary and the heliphos is just bling!

[Dr s]

So really I'm looking at running power for the navigation light, power and speedo feed for the halda, a probably a couple of power sockets for the Potti etc

[Cooperman]

You need two stopwatches, a dual-display trip (I use a Brantz International 2), a set of average speed tables, a Don Barrow map magnifier, a romer, a flexible map light, a plotting light mounted over the navigator's door and a pair of aux. power sockets.

 

Helphos lights are not allowed these days.

 

The Halda Speedpilot is next to useless on regularity sections as the top competitors are working to around +/- 5 seconds at each intermediate time control.

 

Best go to Dan Barrow's web site to see what is available.

 

Here is my panel set-up:

 

[rally1380]

Are you the nav??  From experience with my nav (and wife), they seem to like to decide where bits go, so definately consult the brains of the outfit before bolting anything down permanently. Every nav has a different take on how to set things out, but if you have a regular nav, then ask them for ideas.

 

Things needed.....

 

Power for potti

Power for trip

A map light - one of the bendy avanti ones is very handy

A light above the window on the nav's side - to put on when entering a control and for plotting. I have this operated by the driver so the nav is hands free

Somewhere to hang the potti

Somewhere to stash pencils.

A clip of some sort on the dash for displaying NAM (Not As Map) info.

 

Sick bags!!!!

 

 

 

EDIT : Got beaten to the info by Cooperman....he's only young though and isn't that experienced with rallying so be careful listening to him......  ...ha ha

[GraemeC]

Resilience is also key - two potti feeds on separate circuits/fuses, two wheel sensors for the brantz that you can switch between.
Plotting lights need to be good and bright - we like LEDs but some people hate them as they can alter colours on maps. Ours is on a foot switch so it keeps the hands free.
Wouldn't worry about a map lights if you have an illuminated potti.
Stop watches for us are usually one round navs neck, one clipped to top edge of map board
Speaking of which, a good organised map board is essential - smooth edges, clips on both sides, pencil holders, eraser on a bit of string etc....

[Cooperman]

Resilience is also key - two potti feeds on separate circuits/fuses, two wheel sensors for the brantz that you can switch between.
Plotting lights need to be good and bright - we like LEDs but some people hate them as they can alter colours on maps. Ours is on a foot switch so it keeps the hands free.
Wouldn't worry about a map lights if you have an illuminated potti.
Stop watches for us are usually one round navs neck, one clipped to top edge of map board
Speaking of which, a good organised map board is essential - smooth edges, clips on both sides, pencil holders, eraser on a bit of string etc....

 

Every duplicated item, such as power sockets, the two electric fuel pumps, plotting and map lights, etc, must be on separate switched & fused circuits. Even the earth points need to be individual. That way no single item or fuse failure can cause a major problem.

Even my spot & driving lights are on totally separate circuits with separate relays.

[rally1380]

Wouldn't worry about a map lights if you have an illuminated potti.

 

If doing regularity at night, these are very handy for looking at speed tables as if you move the potti off the map to illuminate the table you loose where you are on the map.  Been there, missed a slot, got the T shirt.

 

We don't actually use a Potti for day events as it's just another thing in the way, but if you do sections under trees or through tunnels (or even buildings!!), you're glad of the extra light.

[GraemeC]

We don't use speed tables - my nav has one of those quija board/coffee grinder thingies. Don't know how they work, but they do!
Can't remember the last time I did a proper regularity in the dark though.

[rally1380]

Rally of the tests and LeJog are full of them......if you have the bank account to enter that is!!!

 

I'm organising a 12 car at the minute which will have to have regularity sections as the roads are too fast round here. Plus with our 12 car being run before midnight, if you have standard sections, they can only be timed to the minute, whereas a regularity can be timed to the second, so easier to get an outright winner.  Well, thats the way we organise them anyway.