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#1 Big_Adam

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 12:43 PM

Hello good people.

i return once more with questions! so here they are.

1, I recently got myself a 2nd hand cooper freeflow manifold. the one you want for a 998cc engine. problem is there should be a clip that holds the exhsught to the engine. not the top manifold but but lower down on the back of the engine. anyone know were i can get this clip or should i modify the exsisting one to fit?

2, Still on manifold but this time the inlet manifold. i checked that it would fit nice with the exshught manifold. need to file a bit from the edge. but the inlet manifold is slightly shallow. hhhmm....how to exsplain it. ah a little pic.

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theres a 1-2mm diffrence between them in high to were they bolt on. should i be concerned or should i start filing the manifolds?

3, right time for possably a stupid question. the dizzy. i know the cap is the contacts and the rotor arm is spun off the cam shaft. but whats all the other gubbins for in the dizzy. the gaps and stuff. i just don't have a clue what its for....and i really want to know just beacuse i have no idea what its for.

right thats should be about it. Ta very much people!

#2 miniboo

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 12:55 PM

use half a washer to get the mating surfaces level with each other

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 01:05 PM

you can get half washers....ooow.

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 01:07 PM

i don't know if you can get them, but you can sure as hell make them!

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 01:18 PM

i don't know if you can get them, but you can sure as hell make them!


Lol @ tommo! :withstupid:

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 01:28 PM

i don't know if you can get them, but you can sure as hell make them!


hmm.....good point. lol.

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 01:47 PM

:withstupid: one of the easier mini jobs!

Give this a read on ignition systems as well:

http://auto.howstuff...tion-system.htm

As for the bracket, just talk to one of the spares places and they will sort you out

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 02:11 PM

Dizzy Cap,

The parts contained in the dizzy cap are the points and the condenser....

Just a few screw holding them in...

Hope this helpes.

Bradders...

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 08:47 PM

Tommo i don't know. its this clip bracket thingy.

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 10:29 PM

Does your manifold have the bracket on it or not? Are you asking where to get the bracket or where to fit it to the engine?

There's lots of stuff inside most distributors. The shaft, the bob weights, the baseplate, the vacuum advance, the points and condenser, the rotor arm and the cap. The dizzy in most cars does more than simply distribute the sparks, it controls the ignition system.

Do you understand that electrical transformers can only work with an alternating current? Well, the coil is a transformer so it needs AC to work but obviously the car's power is DC. The points in the distributor open and close as the engine turns, they are just a switch that controls the power going through the coil. So by opening and closing they turn the DC into AC (as the power is coming and going through the coil). This means the coil generates a big lump of volts each time the points open, so if you put four lumps (like cams) on the shaft that is turning in the dizzy to open and close the points then the coil will produce four big lumps of volts for every cycle which is conveniently one for each cylinder. The condensor is there to make the sparks better by changing the direct on/off of the points into a more curvy pattern.

The other stuff (the bob weights and the vacuum advance) is all there to control exactly when the sparks are produced. The bob wieghts are two weights fixed to the sides of the shaft in the base of the dizzy, arranged to pivot. As the dizzy spins faster and faster, the weights move further out from the shaft. This movement is used to pull the four lobed cam that is actually opening the points around on the shaft so that it can move the exact time when they open backwards or forwards in time during the cycle of the engine. The vacuum servo does the same thing but instead of monitoring the engine speed it monitors the vacuum in the inlet manifold which is supposed to give some idea of the load on the engine. This vacuum pulls on a diaphragm in the canister you can see on the side of the dizzy, moving the baseplate around in the dizzy which also moves the time when the points open forwards or backwards. This is because under different conditions the engine needs the spark to fire at different times to keep it running smoothly.

Once you understand the principles involved it's a pretty simple thing, but very elegant and clever.

Edited by Dan, 07 July 2006 - 10:31 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2006 - 10:34 PM

Does your manifold have the bracket on it or not? Are you asking where to get the bracket or where to fit it to the engine?


my manifold dose not have the bracket. i am asking were i can get one. Also Mr Dan bloody good exsplination, i think i get have to read it over again but that you very much sir. bloody clever things distrabutors.

cheers

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 10:49 PM

Dont know where you can buy that specific clamp on it's own. There are a few available try Mini Spares, can you measure the outside diameter of the pipe exactly where the clamp needs to sit? I think it should be 1 3/4" which will be a pain to find but if it's 1 5/8" then part number C-AHT97 is right. If it's 1 1/2" then you need C-AHT94. These are just the clamp, which is the hard part to find I suppose. You also need the strap to connect it to the gearbox bracket but any thickish piece of strapping about 2" long will do for that. Or you could just phone them and ask for the whole thing. It's a 'manifold clamp to gearbox'.

Edited by Dan, 07 July 2006 - 10:50 PM.





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