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Posted 29 December 2014 - 12:07 AM

I'm planning on using a V18C4 and building my own subframe.
It'll be used mainly as a road car with the odd track day thrown in.
Now comfort isn't high on the list, more vanity and the love of lowering.
I'm planning on using high-lows and red dot cones, but my dilemma comes with the shocks.
My query is:
Do you recommend just upgrading the shocks to adjustable ones or do you really need coil overs rated at around 400LB's.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 12:24 AM

If you are using the original shock positions coil overs are a total waste of time. The angles are all wrong to work effectively. You end up with a falling rate design.

Use the rubber donuts and shocks unless you are going to correctly position any coil overs.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 12:47 AM

Cheers,this was what I was thinking.
Would it be worth the extra bit of effort though to move the fixing and use the coilovers?
Do you improve the ride/ handling that much??

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 12:53 AM

Do you have the room? Where the upper mounts depends on many many things.

Shock lengths used. Ride height wanted etc etc etc. spring rate then can be worked out after you have the corner weights etc.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 12:58 AM

Just add on the race car I was running 290 lbs springs.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 01:11 AM

This conversation may be about to go over my head, but I'm holding on for now lol.
I'll have the room as I'm basing my frame on the allspeed one by modding the standard frame and using a clubman front end.
I'd like to use some 7 x 13 wheels.
Ride hight will be going down a wee bit.
The shocks would therefore be if the lowered variety, unless you suggest you can get away with an alternative with the repositioning of the upper mount.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 01:22 AM

Lowered shock is irrelavent really as that is based on using the existing mounts. Which may be useless for you if it puts the top mount in a cam sprocket or in an area where you can't mount it.

The easiest and best ride will come from the original rubber set up, well maybe slightly updated rubber. But then the original high lows had a re profiled lip that made the original donuts stiffer.

How does your drive train (engine/box) weight compare to the Orginal?




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