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#1 tom1

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 08:28 AM

Hi, I was thinking of getting a gauge to set up my mini for sprinting / track days. I have a limited budget(over spent on presents) what do you think of these ?

 

http://www.demon-twe...-camber-gauge-2

http://www.demon-twe...or-camber-gauge

 

Does not have to come from demon tweeks but they do send me a big catalog to look at over Christmas! I am more than happy for you to suggest others.

 



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:09 AM

I think the ADA one is a drive on type, so does not take in to account tyre wear and pressures, the Guson one (I've seen other makers of these) are good, but you do need some ferrous material that is paralell to the drive flange face to 'stick' it to, none the less, they are good.

 

However,,,,,,

 

Why not make one?

 

Here's mine

 

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<Edit: You'll also need turntables to be able to measure caster>


Edited by Moke Spider, 30 December 2014 - 09:13 AM.


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:32 AM

The MiniSpares one is surprisingly effective:
http://www.minispare...|Back to search

As said, to do caster properly you do need turntables, but one full turn of the wheel is damn close to 20deg. It's certainly close enough to at least ensure both sides are the same, which is the most important factor.

Edited by GraemeC, 30 December 2014 - 09:34 AM.


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 12:01 PM

I think the ADA one is a drive on type, so does not take in to account tyre wear and pressures, the Guson one (I've seen other makers of these) are good, but you do need some ferrous material that is paralell to the drive flange face to 'stick' it to, none the less, they are good.

 

However,,,,,,

 

Why not make one?

 

Here's mine

 

SDC12461.jpg

 

SDC12462.jpg

 

 

 

<Edit: You'll also need turntables to be able to measure caster>

 

Is that just a bolt for a pivot and a big bolt for a weight Spider?  I like it :P



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 12:05 PM

One thing that is more important is to mark out and make 4 points on the floor that are level and to always use them

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 04:59 PM

Thanks for what has been said so far :D .

I like the homemade idea. How did you print out the correct angle ?

By turntable are we just talking round plate with a bearing underneath it, so you can turn the wheels(side to side).I get the idea of flat level ground but won't the turntables will raise the front end up a little? or am I missing something ?



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 07:47 PM

 

Is that just a bolt for a pivot and a big bolt for a weight Spider?  I like it :P

 

 

There is a Bolt in there for the pivot, however I filed it to a ^ for the pointer to move on - less friction and yeah, just an M16 Nut and Bolt of the bottom for a counter weight, though the hole is M20, so I can move it a tad to calibrate it. I really like it because I can see it (even without my glasses!) while I'm adjusting it, right there!  I do have a 'Professional' Wheel Aligner 'Machine' but it's just sat in the corner for about 5 years now, too slow to use!  I also made up a 'Lazer' aligner for doing the Toe Adjustment, which I can comfortable see from under the car while I'm adjusting. I'll try to remember to snap off a photo next time I use it.

 

 

I like the homemade idea. How did you print out the correct angle ?

By turntable are we just talking round plate with a bearing underneath it, so you can turn the wheels(side to side).I get the idea of flat level ground but won't the turntables will raise the front end up a little? or am I missing something ?

 

I made the back plate by first Drawing it on CAD, printing it and Laminating that, but no reason in the world why it couldn't be done the old fashioned way, pencil, protractor and a ruler. The one I've made here is marked down to 15" (or 1/4 of a degree).

 

The Turntables not only spin but also have a few inches of sideways travel. Mine are only about an inch high, for most stuff, I find that doesn't present a problem (there's more flex in the rubbers than any error that will make), however, anything with Poly Bushes or Rose Joints, I have some 10 x 1-1/2" Flat Timbers I place under the other set of wheels.



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:38 PM

has anyone got pics/vid of how to use the minispares kit?






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