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#1 chrif

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 08:49 PM

Hi

Can anyone advise whether the RSP Cooper 'head has a bypass hose? Been offered a spare 'head, less bypass and cant check my car until Monday to see if it will suit...

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 09:19 PM

I am told that the MG Metro engine did not have a bypass.

 

My RSP engine does have a bypass but that may have been done by a PO.



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Posted 24 January 2015 - 02:34 AM

I think it was about 86 they did away with the By-pass on the Mini.



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Posted 24 January 2015 - 07:48 PM

Thanks both - this is helpful.

Elf - Do you know if the RSP engine the same as the MG metro unit in every respect (apart from cooling arrangement and the presence of a catalyst?), or are there any other fundamantal differences??

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 08:00 PM

as far as I know it had the mg metro cam in it

 

not to sure of the valve size tho



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Posted 24 January 2015 - 10:21 PM

As far as I'm aware its a late mg metro engine, i.e mg metro cam, mg metro head (the unleaded small valve one), hif44 carb, 65dm4 dizzy, plus an oil cooler.

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 10:25 PM


Elf - Do you know if the RSP engine the same as the MG metro unit in every respect (apart from cooling arrangement and the presence of a catalyst?), or are there any other fundamantal differences??
 

 

Its an MG Metro engine. Quote from the RSP register:

 

"The Mini Cooper RSP was introduced in 1990 to reintroduce the Mini Cooper to the Mini range. The car was the brainchild of the original creator of the Mini Cooper, John Cooper. He'd been selling Cooper conversions in boxes to mainly Japanese customers and he did a conversion on a few Mini Rose/Sky and Flames in 998cc form. The Rover Group, and more Graham Day, the Rover MD, asked John Cooper to come into Longbridge one day to tell him that they liked what he'd been doing to the Mini and what did he think THEY should do next. The result was that the Mini was sent to Rover Special Products and they decided to put the MG Metro 1275cc engine in with the Mini 30 type interior and a few special other bits, this is now known as the Mini Cooper RSP or sometimes LE (for limited edition). 1650 RSP Coopers were built, 600 going to other countries like Japan, Germany and South Africa, while the remaining 1050 stayed in Britain."



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Posted 25 January 2015 - 12:37 AM

Alistair Vines, who owns the prototype RSP as well as an important ex-works Mk 1 Cooper S, managed the reintroduction of the Mini Cooper. He wrote in the Mini World special "50 years of the Mini":

"The concept was to install a carry-over MG Metro 1.3 litre A+ engine with anti-run-on valve and new tune to suit a Mini 1-litre air cleaner. A catalyst was also to be fitted to help enhance the environmental image for marketing purposes in advance of upcoming emissions legislation. Design and development of the unique 1275cc engine installation was to be outsourced to an external engineering company, namely ERA.....".

From Graham Robson's book on the A-series engine I have learned that the MG Metro engine with its strengthening and other improvements made for the A+ engine plus larger valves and a sporting cam originally gave a power of 72bhp, only 4bhp short of the original 1275 Cooper S. This was achieved with a single carb and without a special cylinder head or expensive modifications. Sadly by the time it reached the Mini Cooper it had lost 10bhp mostly from the result of modifying for unleaded fuel, which has also affected the MG Metro.

I am not really much help though as I do not even know what a bypass hose is.



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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:33 AM

 

I am not really much help though as I do not even know what a bypass hose is.

 

Small metal tube that comes out of the bottom of the head and plugs into the water pump via a small rubber hose.

 

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:37 AM

 

 

I am not really much help though as I do not even know what a bypass hose is.

 

Small metal tube that comes out of the bottom of the head and plugs into the water pump via a small rubber hose.

 

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They would have to be close to one of the most evil things ever



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Posted 25 January 2015 - 10:35 AM

Mine is now a blanking plug (sound of mad laughter!)

Plan you have something similar to the later Metro system though to compensate as I don't particularly want to drill the thermostat. There is some advise on MED's website to replace bypass.

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 10:47 AM

Now I understand. I do not have the original head because my RSP had the Cooper S conversion. I do not have my Mini close to hand to check but the JCG brochure shows it blanked off.
 
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Posted 25 January 2015 - 05:52 PM

Thanks all - some interesting stuff.

Sounds like my car wont have a bypass, but i'll post (for the record) if it does.

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