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[kyle9832]

I have brought 5 litres of cellulose flame red for my car and 2 litres of jet black for the roof and arches, my question is should I sand down to bare metal as the currant paint is of very bad quality, and also when painting onto bare metal what paint do I need? I have some high build grey primer, which I presume has to be mixed with thinners like the paint? and does anything have to go before the primer?

[Daz1968]

If current paint is bad then best bet is to remove it to prevent future problems, I would put a coat of epoxy onto bare metal, then your high build and top coats, epoxy is safe with charcoal mask

[kyle9832]

what is epoxy? will the metal just rust without it?

[Daz1968]

High build primer needs a key to adhere to and either etch primer or epoxy primer bonds to the steel and gives a key for other coats to adhere to. Epoxy is also resistant to water so for working at home when everything isn't done in a controlled booth and may have longer time between coats can be better than etch but is a little more expensive.

[kyle9832]

High build primer needs a key to adhere to and either etch primer or epoxy primer bonds to the steel and gives a key for other coats to adhere to. Epoxy is also resistant to water so for working at home when everything isn't done in a controlled booth and may have longer time between coats can be better than etch but is a little more expensive.

do you know where I can get this?

[Daz1968]

I bought this one, went on very well and had a good build so on my bonnet and doors I just flatted it with a guide coat and put the colour straight on

http://refinishsyste...poxy-primer-kit

I think jawel do an epoxy primer as well, just I have used this exact one and found it good

[kyle9832]

I bought this one, went on very well and had a good build so on my bonnet and doors I just flatted it with a guide coat and put the colour straight on

http://refinishsyste...poxy-primer-kit

I think jawel do an epoxy primer as well, just I have used this exact one and found it good

cheers for the help with that:), how much would the car take?

[Daz1968]

I used the 1 litre to do both doors, bonnet, petrol tank and both subframes, so would think 3 or more litres, not sure if it's available in larger containers, I also hear lechler epoxy is good and that's available in 5 litre containers

[kyle9832]

I will get some then, then should be ready for paint when weather warms up a bit!

[Jase]

This is a 2 pack product and you will need to use the appropriate breathing apparatus, just be careful.

[Shawbags]

2 PACK , EPOXY PAINT IS VERY DANGEROUSE !!!!! ,As Above be very careful do not use it in enclosed  spaces , do not breath in the fumes if you do before you know it you will be gasping for breath and could be fatal , if there is anyone with more experience with this paint please give this lad more details !!!! , Shawbags.

Edited by Shawbags, 05 February 2015 - 04:41 PM.

[kyle9832]

2 PACK , EPOXY PAINT IS VERY DANGEROUSE !!!!! ,As Above be very careful do not use it in enclosed  spaces , do not breath in the fumes if you do before you know it you will be gasping for breath and could be fatal , if there is anyone with more experience with this paint please give this lad more details !!!! , Shawbags.

yes mate thanks for the info, I will get relevant breathing apparatus when I come to paint, I understand the dangers of 2 pack paint and will get full safety equipment

[Shawbags]

YOU CAN HIRE THE BREATHING GEAR BUT MAKE SURE THE FILTERS ARE FOR THE PAINT YOU ARE USING , A BLOKE KILLED HIM SELF A FEW YEARS AGO IN MY AREA HE PAINTED A WING ON HIS CAR IN THE GARAGE WITH THE DOOR SHUT , IT TOOK ABOUT 5 MINUTE HE WAS DEAD , THE PAINT HARDENS IN YOUR LONGS , NASTY STUFF , CHEERS AND TAKE CARE .

[Ben_O]

Please can you type in lower case shawbags.

[Daz1968]

If you look on msds for 2k epoxy it doesn't contain isocyanate and doesn't require airfed, it require an a2p2 mask

http://www.rust.co.u...-primer/c32736/