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#1 Loftur

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 06:41 PM

Hey,

As title really, I'm looking to remove my engine and was wondering which way was easier?

My neighbour used to be into his minis and swears by dropping the subframe but posts I've read seem to say the opposite, I don't have an engine hoist but could get some hands round for either way. If I dropped the subframe I'd replace all the mounts as their starting to wear a bit and it would give me more access to cleaning and rust proofing the subframe.

Also on a side note, anything to look out for if powerwashing the engine once it's out apart from covering electrics?

Thanks in advance!

#2 robminibcy

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 06:44 PM

really personal preference. Id always engine out the top. I have a crane now but have done it with a scaffold pole, some rope and a friend before now without major issue.



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Posted 26 May 2015 - 07:16 PM

Thanks for the reply. The only thing putting me off pulling the engine out the top is separating removing the driveshafts from the diff, im sure how this is done or what's involved?

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 07:41 PM

I found it really easy to drop the entire front subframe, gets it out faster and you have more access to the engine mounts, driveshafts, etc.

#5 Cooperman

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 08:15 PM

I once dropped the front sub-frame to get the engine out. That was in 1969 - never again! Everything has to be undone - fuel lines, brake lines, steering rack ends, dampers, battery lead, sub-frame mounts, complete exhaust system, etc.

It is so simple to take the engine out from the top.



#6 GraemeC

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 08:26 PM

Removing the driveshafts will depend on the type of inner CVs, but if they're pot joints (most likely) then they just lever off the diff output shafts.

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 08:48 PM

Totally agree with Cooperman!  I guess its a personal preference, but having tried both, I'll never be dropping a subframe again to remove the engine.  :shifty:



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Posted 26 May 2015 - 10:08 PM

If they're pot joints they lever out as was mentioned, a really big screw driver or a tyre lever. But don't forget you need to undo top ball joint on each side so shafts move out enough to clear.
It is a personal preference thing as said. Both have their good and bad points, also an engine crane/hoist really should be a must, otherwise there's a good chance of something or someone getting damaged. Maybe hire one or pool resources with local car nuts, buy one between you.




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