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#1 ashleyread1

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 10:30 AM

Since i had seen that the front of the car had been sitting on the bump stop i decided to find out what was wrong hoping that the knuckle joint has gone as i have been told. therefore i need to remove the front trumpet but i don't have a compressor tool. so far i have removed the whole hub assembly and this has given a little bit of room but still not have to get the clearance the get it out is it possible to take the pivot arm out that the knuckle sits in so that i can simply drop the trumpet out, if not what would you suggest. 



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 10:36 AM

it depends on what you are replacing and it the subframe is in the car or not.

 

I would get/borrow a cone compresser.

 

but anything is possible but may not be worth it and in your únknown situatiion may actually not be possible without even more work.



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 10:37 AM

You'll struggle to get the top arm out without a compression tool.

 

Once you've fixed the problem it'll be even harder to put back together without a compression tool



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 10:42 AM

Getting hold of the tool, even if you manage to get the old one out, the replacement must be a tighter fit, to do what you want (unless adjustable - HiLo).

 

If you really can't lay your hands on a tool, you might manage with some M14 threaded rod (assuming the cones are also late enough to be metric). Either way it's best to compress the cone with the weight of the car on the suspension, to give you a head-start.



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 10:46 AM

am fitting hi los so there is no need for the old trumpets as the weight is off them could i just cut them out 



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 11:12 AM

by the way the subframe is in the car 



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 11:15 AM

by the way the subframe is in the car 

borrow a tool.



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 12:04 PM

If the car needs new cones (which is what I suspect you'll find) you're going to find it very hard to put it back together without being able to compress the cone. 



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 01:45 PM

If the car needs new cones (which is what I suspect you'll find) you're going to find it very hard to put it back together without being able to compress the cone. 

Agreed. Mine fell out just by unbolting and removing the top arm but the car had been sitting unused on them for many years and they were non to clever when it was laid up.

 

i know i won't have a hope in hell of getting the new ones in when it's rebuilt so will buy/borrow the appropriate tool. Some jobs just require the correct tool and i don't believe in struggling and then potentially failing just to save a few quid.



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 01:58 PM

I never bothered with the compressor, just took the top arm off and pulled the old cone out and trumpet, then fitted hi los, again, without the compressor



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 02:38 PM

I've done it without a compressor before with the subframe in the car. Did it by removing the pivot shaft with the knuckle still in the arm - but it was not easy and I was replacing old (i.e. compressed) cones. I would follow the advice above and if at all possible buy or borrow a compressor.

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 04:57 PM

right got the trumpet out now made up a compression tool but the doughnut does not fit out of the gap any idea how to remove this

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 05:01 PM

right got the trumpet out now made up a compression tool but the doughnut does not fit out of the gap any idea how to remove this

 

 

Wiggle, wiggle wiggle



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Posted 23 June 2015 - 05:02 PM

haha bit of force was hoping that was the case

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 06:49 PM

after half an hour of trying a crow bar and a bit of blood still dont want to budge




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