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#16 Coney

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Posted 03 October 2015 - 02:47 PM

Any tips to remove the bitumen off the floor? Seems to be taking me forever

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Posted 03 October 2015 - 03:23 PM

Heat gun and a scraper

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Posted 03 October 2015 - 04:13 PM

Well it's a bit of a mess. I'm going to stop taking the bitumen off for now as a couple of holes have appeared on the back drivers side corner. The bottom of that rear bin is totally rotten too.. :( bad times

I've also noticed that the drivers side has an oversills on...

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Posted 03 October 2015 - 04:37 PM

Any tips to remove the bitumen off the floor? Seems to be taking me forever

If you wait until the weather gets cold, the bitumen will go hard and brittle and should break off cleanly in chunks.



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Posted 03 October 2015 - 05:50 PM

Use an old wood chisel ! and a bit off shear determination and patience and you will get there

unfortunately all bitumen and under seal is best removed to find all rusted areas or the job just

aint worth doing, seriously though I am in the process of the last bits of welding on mine!!

I see you are in West Yorkshire if you want a heads up in whats involved I will be back in UK

end of October you are quite welcome to have a look! been retired for a few years after working

in bodywork/restoring game for 50+ years,at moment in Cyprus till end of month.

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Posted 03 October 2015 - 05:54 PM

Thanks spraybeater if I'm still not sorted by end of the month that would be great.

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 10:13 AM

I went to see a local restorer yesterday unfortunately he said he would only take it on as a full restoration which would be thousands as he would have to strip shell & would be replacing full floor pan etc using heritage panels. He was honest said he doesn't do patch repairs but I would easily find other places that would. Gave me plenty of advice, also showed me a shell he was currently working on as part of a full nut and bolt restoration.

 

I will get a few other places to have a look and continue to review the projects on here for inspiration, like I said my dad does have a welder and it would be nice to learn a new skill and I'm no rush for it to be finished. I'm also lucky in that my brother in law is a sprayer so I can save money on a full respray too.

I'll also take up spraybeater on his kind offer when he returns from holiday.

 

Aside from the rot I love the car and it has had a lot of money spent on it in other areas, full engine Steve Benross rebuild 1275, kent cam, full maniflow exhaust, hif44, adjustable suspension, mini lites, moto lite wheel, walnut dash, cobra leather seats.  The restorer yesterday commented how if I was to sell it now I wouldn't lose any money which suggests it was still a good buy. 

 

I think I just need to embrace it for what it is and accept the fact that this is what most minis are like!

 

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 07:34 PM

spent some more time removing the bitumen today, also had a closer look at the door step, looks like someone has had fun with the filler... I stopped myself scraping anything else off for today as holes between the doorstep and outer still we appearing. 

 

Looks like the door jamb panel (whats its proper name) needs totally replacing, what brand repair panels do you recommend? I think I read there is a panel you can buy that just sits over the top of it? A bodge but something I could probably manage to do myself, as I don't fancy removing that complete panel as I can imagine you have to take wings off and all sorts?

 

Does the Companion bin need removing to replace the inner sill? as it has also got the rear bench seat attached to it. Again a scary prospect.

 

Looking at the state of my mini what repair panels do you think I should be looking at? Some of the sill repair panels appear to have a cut out for that main cross member and some don't?

 

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 07:44 PM

You will need the following,

 

Inner sill to first flute both sides

11.31.04.37 Floor Inner Sill to First Groove, LH, Mk1-5 31.50  £37.80

11.31.04.38 Floor Inner Sill to First Groove, RH, Mk1-5 31.50 £37.80

 

 

Door step and A post

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

 

To change the inner sills properly you will need to take out the companion bin. Its not that bad but having the right tools plays a major part in this.

 

I have written a how to thread for the sills

http://www.theminifo...nd-outer-sills/

 

I can give you a more comprehensive list tomorrow as i'm at work at the moment.

 

Right other bits as needed all from M Machine

Outer sills

14.32.00.01 Sill, LH, Mk3-4 19.00 £22.80

14.32.00.02 Sill, RH, Mk3-4 19.00 £22.80

 

Jacking points

11.32.06.01 Jacking Point, LH, Mk1-4 7.00 £8.40

11.32.06.02 Jacking Point, RH, Mk1-4 7.00 £8.40

 

Now looking at the pictures your companion bin look crusty at the bottom so go for a complete bin

13.37.00.03 Companion Box, LH, Mk3 on 24.50 £29.40

13.37.00.04 Companion Box, RH, Mk3 on 24.50 £29.40

 

Next on the list, inner sill stiffeners

11.37.02.03 Plate, Companion Box Closing, LH 5.50 £6.60 

11.37.02.04 Plate, Companion Box Closing, RH 5.50 £6.60

 

At this point in time you may need these as well which is an inner arch closeout from Minispares

http://www.minispare...ic/14A6611.aspx

http://www.minispare...ic/14A6612.aspx

 

Also possibly needed will be these from M machine

11.32.02.27 Bracket, Rear Sub Frame Mounting with captive nuts, LH 4.50 5.40

11.32.02.28 Bracket, Rear Sub Frame Mounting with captive nuts, RH 4.50 5.40

 

These from M Machine flitch repair panels

13.21.00.17 Hinge Panel Repair, LH, Mk3 on 18.00 21.60

13.21.00.18 Hinge Panel Repair, RH, Mk3 on 18.00 21.60

 

Now not all of these maybe needed, some repair sections could be locally fabricated but this will give you a heads up for what maybe required.



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 07:26 PM

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 07:35 PM

Updated it. Don't be put off by the list.

 

You can buy the outer and inner sill with jacking points fitted as one and it is this panel from M machine

14.33.01.17 Inner & Outer Sill Assembly, Complete, LH, Mk3-5 58.00 69.60

14.33.01.18 Inner & Outer Sill Assembly, Complete, RH, Mk3-5 58.00 69.60



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 09:16 PM

thank you very much for that, price isn't that bad really for all that.

I just need to find someone willing to take the job on for me now. 



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 10:19 PM

I have not added any floor replacements primarily as looking at your floors what appears to be rust maybe rust coloured water staining. So when the floors are properly cleaned up you will get a better picture of what needs doing.



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Posted 13 October 2015 - 11:07 AM

I don't know where in West Yorkshire you are but a guy in my local club does a lot of mini work (based in Silsden) - https://www.facebook...torations.co.uk

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 07:07 PM

Thanks for that, I'm in Baildon so only about 20mins away.





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