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[The Pot Wash]

Hello fellow Mini Lovers. I have one of these dreaded engines with the No missing. I have given it a clean today for photos to see if there are any telltale signs to say what it is.. SPi MPi old Metro or possibly MG Metro. I have taken some photos for you to view and see what we can notice on the engine.

 

Another question is if its a SPi or MPi will it still run on a std HIF44. Not sure about these new engines I was a points and feeler guages guy back when I was 19...lol 42 now... Anyhow not sure if the injection models are different compressions or whaat..

 

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[cal844]

Looks like an spi block and box... Crank sensor and other variations

[Carlos W]

It's not an MPi, they didn't have dizzy holes.

 

No engine number???

[Scott@minispeed]

It looks like an SPI, the engine number isn't missing its just rusty, etched on the flat area of the block just below where the thermostat goes in the head

[The Pot Wash]

Ah if that is the case MiniMad I will have a look tomorrow when back on it. I was looking for the ally plate rivited to the block at the front right near the thr thermostat... 12H or 99H I recall but if its changed... I will look.

 

So will the SPi run ok on a std HIF44 ?

[whistler]

Looks the same as my '92 1275 with electronic dizzy (65dm4) and hif44. Mine has the crank sensor holder as well and the other little brackets on clutch housing.

My engine number starts 12A2BG03

Edited by whistler, 27 November 2015 - 07:27 PM.

[The Pot Wash]

1275cc    
70.6 X 81.28mm    54bhp @ 5300rpm    65lb ft @ 2550rpm    1971-80:      Mini 1275GT
58bhp @ 5250rpm    69lb ft @ 3500rpm

1275cc  S  Spec    
76bhp @ 5800rpm    79lb ft @ 3000rpm    1964-71: (Austin & Morris) Mini Cooper S

1275cc  A+ Spec    
50bhp @ 5000rpm    66lb ft @ 2600rpm    1992-2000: Mini Sprite / Mayfair
61bhp @ 5550rpm    61lb ft @ 3000rpm    1990-91: Mini Cooper
63bhp @ 5700rpm    70lb ft @ 3900rpm    1991-1996: Mini Cooper 1.3i / Cabriolet
63bhp @ 5500rpm    70lb ft @ 3000rpm    1997-2000: Mini Cooper 1.3i (MPi)
72bhp @ 6000rpm    73lb ft @ 4000rpm    1982-89: MG Metro
77bhp @ 5800rpm    80lb ft @ 3000rpm    1991-2000: Mini Cooper S 1.3i
78bhp @ 6000rpm    78lb ft @ 3250rpm    1990-91: Mini Cooper S
86bhp @ 5400rpm          82lb ft @ 3200rpm         1994-1996 Mini Cooper Grand Prix
93bhp @ 6130rpm    85lb ft @ 2650rpm    1983-89: MG Metro Turbo
96bhp @ 6130rpm        1989-90: Mini ERA Turbo

 

 

Am I correct in guessing the ones I have BOLDed on the list are the possible engine ?

[FlyingScot]

Not necessarily why do you think it will be Cooper spec ? Even if it is an Spi the vast majority of them were bog standard 50 horse models. As noted above during the transition period between carb and injection many parts were the same.

FS

Edited by FlyingScot, 27 November 2015 - 08:30 PM.

[The Pot Wash]

Ah right. Cheers for that. So worst case 50bhp. Thats fine.. I best buy a crank sensor because I aint seen one of them on the loom !

[cal844]

Ah right. Cheers for that. So worst case 50bhp. Thats fine.. I best buy a crank sensor because I aint seen one of them on the loom !

You only need a crank sensor for injection models

[The Pot Wash]

OK. So no need for another item. Brilliant. I wasn't sure if the crank sensor had some realationship with the Electronic Dizzy... see last time I played with these it was points...and condenser....

[jasonmallett]

Can always change back to points?