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#1 mikedaf2

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 07:24 PM

I need some help in getting to the source of this issue as its driving me insane!
I have a 1990 mini cooper carb model and it keeps burning the ignition module out (black module on the side of the distributor). So far I have changed the module 3 times and along the way I have changed the distributor cap,rotor arm coil and plugs. The coil is a Lucas one for non ballast system so I'm fairly sure its the right one. My question is what else could be causing this,could there be a fault inside the distributor itself that would do this?

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 07:31 PM

Is the coil the one for electronic ignition - gcl143 or equivalent?
No other coil should be used

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM

as above - and no copper leads mine went with copper leads

 

theres 3 coils only one suits - as above

 

mines got about 1.2 ohms



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Posted 29 November 2015 - 07:49 PM

I need some help in getting to the source of this issue as its driving me insane!
I have a 1990 mini cooper carb model and it keeps burning the ignition module out (black module on the side of the distributor). So far I have changed the module 3 times...

 

Could you post up a pick of one of the failed modules please or from where you've bought them from.

 

As in the last few years I've had 2 non genuine ignition modules fail, one only a few weeks ago while doing over 60mph. What I seem to be finding is they go from working to complete failure with no warning, so having the effect of switching off the ignition while driving. And this is despite using the correct coil, plugs etc.



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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:01 PM

Just going to look at the model number back in a second

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:07 PM

Its a Lucas DLB198, is this one correct? I was told it was the right one!

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:10 PM

I need some help in getting to the source of this issue as its driving me insane!
I have a 1990 mini cooper carb model and it keeps burning the ignition module out (black module on the side of the distributor). So far I have changed the module 3 times...

 
Could you post up a pick of one of the failed modules please or from where you've bought them from.
 
As in the last few years I've had 2 non genuine ignition modules fail, one only a few weeks ago while doing over 60mph. What I seem to be finding is they go from working to complete failure with no warning, so having the effect of switching off the ignition while driving. And this is despite using the correct coil, plugs etc.
The first module that failed was the original one, the next two where bought from powerspark so not original, where should I buy one from?

Thanks
Mike.

Edited by mikedaf2, 29 November 2015 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:33 PM

are you putting heatsink compound on the modules? if not they can overheat and die.



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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:33 PM

 

 

I need some help in getting to the source of this issue as its driving me insane!
I have a 1990 mini cooper carb model and it keeps burning the ignition module out (black module on the side of the distributor). So far I have changed the module 3 times...

 
Could you post up a pick of one of the failed modules please or from where you've bought them from.
 
As in the last few years I've had 2 non genuine ignition modules fail, one only a few weeks ago while doing over 60mph. What I seem to be finding is they go from working to complete failure with no warning, so having the effect of switching off the ignition while driving. And this is despite using the correct coil, plugs etc.
The first module that failed was the original one, the next two where bought from powespark so not original, where should I buy one from?

Thanks
Mike.

 

 

Same place as both of mine came from. They wouldn't happen to be black with a white square section on the front by any chance?

 

My current working replacement is a 20 year old genuine lucas/rover original picked up in an auto jumble, funny how a 20 year old park can be more reliable than a new part made yesterday.


Edited by 1984mini25, 29 November 2015 - 08:56 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:39 PM

are you putting heatsink compound on the modules? if not they can overheat and die.


Yes I have applied the heatsink compound, I know this is important so I used so much it squeezed out the sides when bolted up.

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:40 PM

are you putting heatsink compound on the modules? if not they can overheat and die.

These are the plug in black modules on the side of the dizzy body not the ones housed inside the dizzy.

Edit-posted at the same time, do the black boxes have the white gunk too then? I might keep an eye out for good spares if these are becoming an issue?

Edited by CityEPete, 29 November 2015 - 08:41 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:41 PM

I need some help in getting to the source of this issue as its driving me insane!
I have a 1990 mini cooper carb model and it keeps burning the ignition module out (black module on the side of the distributor). So far I have changed the module 3 times...

 
Could you post up a pick of one of the failed modules please or from where you've bought them from.
 
As in the last few years I've had 2 non genuine ignition modules fail, one only a few weeks ago while doing over 60mph. What I seem to be finding is they go from working to complete failure with no warning, so having the effect of switching off the ignition while driving. And this is despite using the correct coil, plugs etc.
The first module that failed was the original one, the next two where bought from powespark so not original, where should I buy one from?
Thanks
Mike.
 
Same place as both of mine came from. They wouldn't happen to be black with a white square section on the front by any chance?
 
My curt working replacement is a 20 year old genuine local/rover original picked up in an auto jumble, funny how a 20 year old park can be more reliable than a new part made yesterday.

Ah yes, they are black with a white square on the top. So I need to find an original item then?

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:43 PM

are you putting heatsink compound on the modules? if not they can overheat and die.

These are the plug in black modules on the side of the dizzy body not the ones housed inside the dizzy.
Edit-posted at the same time, do the black boxes have the white gunk too then? I might keep an eye out for good spares if these are becoming an issue?

Yes they are on the side of the distributor and not inside.

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:46 PM

Have you tried the minispares one? I might get one and leave it in the boot just in case!

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:51 PM

 

 

 

 

I need some help in getting to the source of this issue as its driving me insane!
I have a 1990 mini cooper carb model and it keeps burning the ignition module out (black module on the side of the distributor). So far I have changed the module 3 times...

 
Could you post up a pick of one of the failed modules please or from where you've bought them from.
 
As in the last few years I've had 2 non genuine ignition modules fail, one only a few weeks ago while doing over 60mph. What I seem to be finding is they go from working to complete failure with no warning, so having the effect of switching off the ignition while driving. And this is despite using the correct coil, plugs etc.
The first module that failed was the original one, the next two where bought from powespark so not original, where should I buy one from?
Thanks
Mike.
 
Same place as both of mine came from. They wouldn't happen to be black with a white square section on the front by any chance?
 
My curt working replacement is a 20 year old genuine local/rover original picked up in an auto jumble, funny how a 20 year old park can be more reliable than a new part made yesterday.

Ah yes, they are black with a white square on the top. So I need to find an original item then?

 

 

Pretty much, either source a used or new genuine lucas module. As from my experiences these non-genuine powerspark modules are crap, with one failing after just a mile and half of driving and another after a few weeks.






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