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#1 alex-95

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 08:45 PM

I've got the good ridge braided brake hose the one that has a banjo fitting and goes right up to the subframe, where do people route theres? I've loosely fitted mine and looks like I can route them in the below pictures filing out the radius arm bracket for the hose to pass through to keep it in position with a grommet in the hole. Would it be OK to route it like this?

 

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:07 PM

Personally I'd try to fit it into the hole on the arm, either that or cable tie the hose to it?

Edited by cal844, 02 July 2016 - 09:07 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:09 PM

thats what I said I was going to do in the 1st post, the bracket where the metal hose and flexi hose would usually join.



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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:17 PM

You'd need to cut the bracket to get a slot in it to mount. Would be just as easy to grind the lot off, drill and tap a hole then fit a P clip.

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:17 PM

I removed the bracket and tapped a hole to fit a P clip round the hose. I think the usual method is to cable tie around the arm and ignore the bracket.I think it would be better to keep the hose so it's not between the wheel and arm.



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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:18 PM

I'm a bit concerned with the hose coming around the wheel side of the Trailing Arm. I'd look at strapping it along the top of the Arm, for as far as I sensibly could, then bring it around the inboard side of the Arm, to the Slave, but check the clearance where it crosses around that it won't foul the Subframe or it could make for a bad day. To sensibly do this, it may require the removal of the original bracket, or slotting it and fitting a grommet to it and routing the hose through it.

 

I'd probably use something like these between the hose and the arm where I strap them

 

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and likely use Stainless Steel Ties.

 

<EDIT: P Clips as the other guys have suggested would probably be better than stainless ties. >


Edited by Moke Spider, 02 July 2016 - 09:20 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:26 PM

Those long flapping hoses should not be used and are a potential MOT failure because, as you have found, there is no proper way of anchoring them and preventing them being trapped. If you strap them down, they will move and potentially chafe. The proper hose runs from an anchorage on the subframe to another on the arm, with the short hose under control and the rigid pipes protected from strain.

I guess that you bought these dreadful things from the usual suspects, who have given us other truly useless innovations such as the floating primary gear bush? BMC put considerable effort into making the run of the brake pipes safe many years ago. It seems that profiteers with only amateurish design capability think they can do better, without a proper development program. Be aware that if the car crashes due to brake failure, it is YOU who will be held liable, not the cowboy supplier of these hoses.

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:34 PM

cheers guy's, I was thinking about being between the wheel and the arm, which way have you routed it on the inside as the handbrake cable is there? I'll see if I can get it to the bracket a better way tomorrow. I've got p-clips so might do that.

I do have the short type and pipe to make the original style ones but thought it would be easier with these.



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Posted 03 July 2016 - 02:58 AM

Those long flapping hoses should not be used and are a potential MOT failure because, as you have found, there is no proper way of anchoring them and preventing them being trapped. If you strap them down, they will move and potentially chafe. The proper hose runs from an anchorage on the subframe to another on the arm, with the short hose under control and the rigid pipes protected from strain.

I guess that you bought these dreadful things from the usual suspects, who have given us other truly useless innovations such as the floating primary gear bush? BMC put considerable effort into making the run of the brake pipes safe many years ago. It seems that profiteers with only amateurish design capability think they can do better, without a proper development program. Be aware that if the car crashes due to brake failure, it is YOU who will be held liable, not the cowboy supplier of these hoses.

 

I gotta say, I agree.






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