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#1 JonnyAlpha

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 07:53 AM

Hi;

 

I have just had some S/H tyres fitted to a set of 5 x 10 Wellers that I refurbished myself and when the guy was balancing them he spotted that one was buckled and told me that he would not balance it as it could not be used.

 

Can it be repaired? If so how?

 

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 08:25 AM

Depends on how buckled?

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 08:26 AM

Pics are handy here..
I haven't done it myself, but I've seen my local tyre fitter 'repair' a buckled wheel with a big lumpy hammer

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 09:21 AM

Depends on how bad it is but I've had a buckled wheel fixed while having a set refurbished.

It will need a lot of delicate balancing to get right though

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 11:31 AM

In principle a steel wheel can be repaired, and it has to be worth a try.

But just in case anyone gets the wrong idea, all damaged alloy wheels are scrap. They can not be safely repaired.

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 01:07 PM

Pics are handy here..
I haven't done it myself, but I've seen my local tyre fitter 'repair' a buckled wheel with a big lumpy hammer

When I refurbished the wheels there was nothing visibly wrong with any of them (apart from a few dings which I repaired). In hind sight I should have made up some form of jig to spin them before painting and getting the tyres fitted.

 

To check this one I now have to get the tyre off (more cost) and try and see where the problem is?



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Posted 31 August 2016 - 04:20 PM

Surely you can just mount it on the car (rear is best, less mechanical drag) and with the car safely supported and the radius arm hanging free, just use some simple measuring or gauging device from some reference point such as the outer radius arm pivot nut? Indeed you could bolt a strip of metal on there and bend it to be near the wheel rim so you could see the gap changing as the wheel is rotated. Maybe use a different reference point for the inner rim. It may not be necessary to remove the tyre for that.

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 04:29 PM

In principle a steel wheel can be repaired, and it has to be worth a try.

But just in case anyone gets the wrong idea, all damaged alloy wheels are scrap. They can not be safely repaired.

 

So how do you justify that statement then?? i happen to know a very experienced welder / fabricator who all of the local tyre companies use to repair damaged alloys. Also i have had a buckled alloy wheel successfully repaired by another company just outside Spalding in Lincolnshire who use specialist equipment designed specifically for removing buckles from Alloy wheels.

 

I had a 16" Passat Alloy rim that was buckled done and was extremely pleased with the result.

 

Now i can understand that statement if you have a severely buckled wheel or a massive section broken out of the rim. But a smooth buckle that wont balance out is something entirely different.

 

Also i have used this particular company to refurbish another set of wheels

http://www.wheelwork....uk/process.php

 

They provide and extremely good service and guess what they repair alloy wheels.



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Posted 02 September 2016 - 01:01 PM

Hi;

 

I am going back to garage to see if they can balance my buckled wheel to use as a spare (emergencies) but I also have a couple of questions ref my solutions:

 

1. My current spare is a Manx (Weller Copy) it is a 5 x 10 but the inner profile of the wheel (The spokes) are slightly different - can I use this one one side with a Weller original on the other?

 

2. I have been looking around for some replacements and found these. They are Wellers and have '4400 6' stamped on the which matches mine but they have a slot cut out of the inner rim where they sit over the hub - I have seen this before but just wondered before I buy them if it would be a problem?



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Posted 02 September 2016 - 07:25 PM

Question 1, thats not a good idea as the offset is probably slightly different.

Question 2, It could cause agro at MOT time as the design strength of the wheels have been compromised by removing metal thus potentially weakening the stud area.

 You could argue that its standard for a trailer so it must be OK but I guarantee your insurance company would throw a claim out of the window.

 

20 odd years ago I clipped a kerb stone with a rear wheel whilst running with 10x6 weller wheels, it tore the rear wheel clean off the hub leaving a small inner section with two bolt holes and a couple of spokes. It was a around 70 mph and by the time the car had came to rest there was only one good wheel left on the car as the N/S front wheel had shed its rim leaving the bent and twisted spokes on the hub and the O/S front had lost its tyre and buckled badly.

I did not hit any thing else on the road other than clipping the kerb with the rear wheel and there was no damage to the car other than resetting the suspension geometry and replacing the wheel arch extensions.

The wheels were not rusty and the nuts were correctly fitted so I can only put it down to sticky 165 tyres on poor quality rims as I could buy them at a trade price of £13 each.

I obviously never used Weller 8 spokes again so my personal opinion would be to shop around for something different.



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Posted 02 September 2016 - 07:38 PM

Found another Weller 5 x 10 on eBay, according to the seller the wheel has the following markings:

WELLER
WHEELS
7/83/D

 

Any ideas what these marking mean?

 

Mine have:

4400 6

XX WELLER XX

Where XX are two digit numbers presumably denoting the month and year of manufacture.  






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