28 replies to this topic

[limby2000]

Very intriguing, i guess if you have current insurance cover and its reg,ed in your name the dvlc computer would surely give you tax as it will tick all boxes.

[Swift_General]

Very intriguing, i guess if you have current insurance cover and its reg,ed in your name the dvlc computer would surely give you tax as it will tick all boxes.

Don't even need insurance to tax a car!

[limby2000]

Is that the car dealer cover route? Swift?

[Swift_General]

Very intriguing, i guess if you have current insurance cover and its reg,ed in your name the dvlc computer would surely give you tax as it will tick all boxes.

Don't even need insurance to tax a car!

No. The check for insurance at point of buying tax was removed a few years back. Reason being with the introduction of CIE (continuous insurance enforcement) a few years prior a car either has to be insured or a SORN made otherwise you can expect to be fined. So the check when buying tax was seen as duplicitous and removed.

[Its a min]

 

Here's the answer:

 

https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles

That's not the answer.

 

Many post 1960 cars that have not been used for a good number of years are now coming up as 'MOT Exempt' on the DVLA site. A mate of mine has this with his 1970 Mk 3 Cooper S and another with his 1972 Triumph Vitesse - both have been off the road at least 15 years but have up to date V5C's.

 

Has anyone tried to tax one online?

 

 

If that's the case, your mate is lucky.

 

Mine had been off the road since 2003 but had an up to date V5C. Got it MOT'd the weekend just gone and the test centre could find no MOT history. Apparently, the MOT history falls off the DVLA database after a vehicle has not been MOT'd for a number of years. It didn't mean it was MOT exempt though.

 

You have to apply for a vehicle to become exempt using form V112 (see link) and the car needs to be in one of the categories listed on page two which, unless your mates cars aren't registered correctly or in a special category, is category O, vehicles manufactured or registered before 1st January 1960.

 

https://www.gov.uk/g...V112_150514.pdf

 

There was discussion, and consultation, a few years ago about the UK being more flexible to fall in line with EU directives which meant MOT's could be relaxed to make vehicles that were 30 year old MOT exempt but the UK powers that be never took it up but there still appears to be some pressure.

 

Scroll down to: KNIGHT CALLS FOR MOT EXEMPTION CHANGE -2nd June 2016

 

http://www.historicv...org.uk/hvg3.php

[limby2000]

Merging both mot and tax on a rolling 40 years date as described above makes good sense to me. Cant understand the government,s reluctance. Perhaps its financial.

[panky]

Not such a good idea if you have a modified car, it's being suggested that the 'Historic' definition of a vehicle will depend on it meeting certain criteria based on originality. You might get away with fitting a different engine but if that involves alteration to the shell, suspension and brakes (for instance) then your car could loose it's historic classification and be subject to an MOT and tax.

[tiger99]

Making a car exempt from MOT makes no sense whatsoever, as it will be exploited by idiots and incompetents, and as a direct result people will be killed and injured. It is plain even from a small minority on this forum, and anywhere else that opinions are expressed, even in the pub, that a portion of society has no respect for the law, and less than zero comprehension of what needs to be done to ensure the safety of themselves and others. And that does not relate only to cars.

 

It will all end very badly after a few spectacular accidents, and the government will have to change the law again.

[CityEPete]

All car,s prior to 1960 are already mot exempt, are the difficult to get insurance for? Do they still need a roadworthy test?.

57 Morris minor owner here, no problems at all.

[62S]

Making a car exempt from MOT makes no sense whatsoever, as it will be exploited by idiots and incompetents, and as a direct result people will be killed and injured.
 
It will all end very badly after a few spectacular accidents, and the government will have to change the law again.

Well despite the naysayers and doom mongers it hasn't happened here with pre 1960 cars, nor in Ireland or Denmark

[CityEPete]

There aren't many useable 1950s car about, it would need to be quite an elaborate plan to dodge an mot once a year, the most probable offenders would be the tax exempt MPI minis and very new looking 'series' Land Rovers if they change it to fall in line with tax exemption.

[Orange-Phantom]

We do not have an MOT at all on the Isle of Man and that does not stop us from getting car insurance.  In fact it's a lot cheaper over here!

 

Also I have to say to the people that say not having an MOT system in place is going to result in people being killed and injured is absolute rubbish.  In well over 30 years not one vehicle that has been involved in a incident or accident on the Island that has been as a result of a car being unroadworthy through some form of defect that would have been picked up by an MOT.

 

This fact came out when there was a consultation on the Island a couple of years back regarding the introduction of an MOT over here.  It was decided that it would be a fruitless exercise that would only benefit garages and their back pocket.  If you speak to certain garages in the UK they will "bend" the rules for you anyway!

[Pete649]

We do not have an MOT at all on the Isle of Man

 

Damn, you beat me to it.

[Dusky]

Making a car exempt from MOT makes no sense whatsoever, as it will be exploited by idiots and incompetents, and as a direct result people will be killed and injured.
 
It will all end very badly after a few spectacular accidents, and the government will have to change the law again.

Well despite the naysayers and doom mongers it hasn't happened here with pre 1960 cars, nor in Ireland or Denmark

You can be mot exempt in belgium when a car is 25.
The amount of Blunt idiots abusing this System is gigantic. They either illegaly fit things like 7 port heads, or Just use Big rustbuckets and get surprises by things like failed brakes.
For once I Have to agree with Tiger.