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[JakeJakeJake]

Like this https://m.alibaba.co..._specifications

The engine they use isn't an a series, would it fit in a mini?

[Mini Moke]

Whatttttttttttttttttttt the hell...are you serious? Its good in a way but man...a copy of the classic.

 

They cost a lot IMO...as high as US$ 8,900

Edited by Mini Moke, 02 February 2017 - 01:53 AM.

[Spider]

This is them here, not those shown on that website;-

 

http://mokeinternational.com/

 

The engine & gearbox is from Cherry (the parent company) and has been around for a few years now. While I don't know of any conversion done to the classic Mini or Moke, some basic measurements that I've made of them indicates that it would fit fairly easy, however, why you'd do such a conversion using one of these engines is another question,,,,,,,

[driftz]

begs the question how good of a round nose mini replica could china make? now a days with their ever improving qc it might be not bad....

[Spider]

begs the question how good of a round nose mini replica could china make? now a days with their ever improving qc it might be not bad....

 

For a while, replacement Moke Shells of Chinese manufacture were available. I think there was in fact two suppliers of these, with one going further and manufacturing a lot of the unique (from Mini) Moke parts.

 

One type of these shells were ~ OK ~, certainly nothing wrong with them, just 'unfinished' in many of the small details.

 

The others and the parts - it does irk me to say this, but the truth of it is that I've found them to be higher quality and a more consistent standard than the originals. They did also offer complete, ready to drive Mokes, though I don't know a lot about these, certainly, we never got any here.

 

Since the time that these current new (complete) Mokes was in a concept stage, these new shells had ceased production. One of the guys who was involved with the shell and parts business also has a hand in these new Mokes. I also thought for what they were, the price was also very attractive.

 

This current range is somewhat different from the originals. They are a little wider and have an extended nose. They also don't 'look' right as the wheel arches are huge, yet the tiny (12" ?) wheels they fit just look lost in them.

 

<Edit: I just recalled that the company who was making shells and parts included subframe in their range. They were close replicas of MKI type Subframes (as that's all we ever had here from start to finish) but not exact and I did find that the geometry of the rear one didn't match the originals, however, as they also had their own trailing arms, when fitted up with these, they were right. It could be corrected, which I did do for a mate, but needed to be aware of the differences. One thing though that really stuck in my mind about these subframes was the grade of steel they were made from. I don't actually know what it was, but definitely a tensile grade, it was exceeding difficult to bend and took a LOT more effort to cut. When compared in most ways to the originals, it was embarrassing. >

Edited by Moke Spider, 02 February 2017 - 07:54 AM.

[Scousemouse]

Yeah M.S. the more you look at them the LESS they look MOKEY  (it's as if bmw are behind it,couple of months down the line they'll be the size of Range Rovers)  

(who bought the rights to MOKE,or can anyone use a model name as opposed to a Brand name ??)

[Ethel]

I would guess the rights went to China, along with anything else of Rover that BMW didn't asset strip. Only the trade names/marks would still be enforceable. Rover did register the shape of the saloon's body as a trademark, but that was a bit cheeky and possibly not enforceable. W&P were openly selling new cars for the 50th, heritage shells with all new parts, but not badged as Minis. Only this week we've had a link to someone doing similar with a fibreglass sprint body.

 

Minisport were offering the Chinese Mokes, but stopped about the same time IVA tests came in.

[Spider]

After Moke production, by Rover ceased in Portugal 1989, the production line and the rights were purchased by Cagiva who produced them up to September 1993.

 

I think it was around 2003 that the rights were again sold and snapped up by the Chinese, though it appears that the production line tool is still held in storage in Italy, but that may have been disposed of by now.

[Scousemouse]

 

 

Minisport were offering the Chinese Mokes, but stopped about the same time IVA tests came in.

Makes ya wonder why???  

[tiger99]

Because a Moke, like an original Mini, CAN NOT PASS IVA without a lot of serious and disfiguring work. Nor would almost any other car designed in the late 1950s.

 

If in doubt, Google for the IVA tester's manual and read it carefully.