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[maccers]

Just had car MoT'd today, passed with an Advisory information about (Four corners of floor corroded) So I get back and just taken a look, at the front bottom inner wheel arch where it meets the sill (bit closest to road/back of front tyre) I peeled back some underseal that has always been there since my ownership and a whole lot of crumbly metal came away with it, so much I can see daylight and actually get my hand in and touch the carpet. The other side is pretty much the same.

 

I am assuming had the MoT guy done this, it would have been a fail? 

 

Not sure if its safe to drive now seeing it like this, although by the looks of it the underseal has been masking this for some time. 

 

Did not check the back yet, so not sure what is lurking there.

[dyshipfakta]

Mot can only really look. Not allowed to remove anything so it's easy to cover rot. Get it fixed it won't be safe and if plod pulls you it won't look too good irrespective of the mot.

[sonikk4]

You need to sort it. One its going to let water in and 2 you really need to see how bad its actually gone.

[maccers]

Yeah, am going to have it checked out asap.

[sonikk4]

Mot can only really look. Not allowed to remove anything so it's easy to cover rot. Get it fixed it won't be safe and if plod pulls you it won't look too good irrespective of the mot.

 

Yup gone are the days where they used to use a screwdriver or something similar to prod or stab as the case maybe.

[1984mini25]

 

Mot can only really look. Not allowed to remove anything so it's easy to cover rot. Get it fixed it won't be safe and if plod pulls you it won't look too good irrespective of the mot.

 

Yup gone are the days where they used to use a screwdriver or something similar to prod or stab as the case maybe.

 

 

There's a fast fit place in town with an mot tester that's known for doing exactly that. And the last time (I've found a much friendlier mot tester) He took longer stabbing away at the underside of the mini with a screwdriver/hammer deliberately trying to make holes and scraping away at paint/underseal, than it took to do the rest of the test.

[sonikk4]

 

 

Mot can only really look. Not allowed to remove anything so it's easy to cover rot. Get it fixed it won't be safe and if plod pulls you it won't look too good irrespective of the mot.

 

Yup gone are the days where they used to use a screwdriver or something similar to prod or stab as the case maybe.

 

 

There's a fast fit place in town with an mot tester that's known for doing exactly that. And the last time (I've found a much friendlier mot tester) He took longer stabbing away at the underside of the mini with a screwdriver/hammer deliberately trying to make holes and scraping away at paint/underseal, than it took to do the rest of the test.

 

 

If i caught him doing that i would have taken my car away and reported him to VOSA.

[minidaves]

front floor corner unless within 30 cm of subframe mount ,seatbelt mount, steering mounting, brake pedal servo or roll cage or anything else bolted on thats structural it is a pass, however i would not want to drive one with holes in

[1984mini25]

 

 

 

Mot can only really look. Not allowed to remove anything so it's easy to cover rot. Get it fixed it won't be safe and if plod pulls you it won't look too good irrespective of the mot.

 

Yup gone are the days where they used to use a screwdriver or something similar to prod or stab as the case maybe.

 

 

There's a fast fit place in town with an mot tester that's known for doing exactly that. And the last time (I've found a much friendlier mot tester) He took longer stabbing away at the underside of the mini with a screwdriver/hammer deliberately trying to make holes and scraping away at paint/underseal, than it took to do the rest of the test.

 

 

If i caught him doing that i would have taken my car away and reported him to VOSA.

 

 

I just prefer never to go there. As strangely this tester loves poking holes, but don't offer or do any welding (they wouldn't be the ones doing the welding anyway), so it's not like they are out to make easy money for themselves.

 

Still I think the mini got its own back, as he later smacked his head on the door frame (yes I was more worried about the car) getting back in to move it off the mot ramp, and promptly refused to move it and getting someone else to instead.

[1984mini25]

Although to the OP. Yes you might have now found some rot that needs fixing sooner rather than later, but on the plus side you do now have the next 12 months to do it rather than a rush job to ready it for a retest.

[maccers]

Yep, agree on the above for sure, am going to have a more detailed look later today further down the cills, remove some more underseal to see what lurks beneath..! 

[tiger99]

The MOT rust test is a bit of a farce because it often can't detect serious structural rust which presents an immediate danger. With certain cars, styling bodykits can be applied by cowboys which cover structural elements. Glued down carpets conceal others. That in my opinion should not be allowed and aftermarket body kits that prevent proper inspection should result in an automatic fail. But if the test was more aggressive as regards scraping and poking, it would seriously damage the rust protection.

If it was something like an aircraft, all covers, trim, carpets etc would be removed to facilitate inspection.

I wonder if a torsional stiffness test might be of more use, but the manufacturer would need to define the attachment points and load to be applied. Many bodged vehicles would fail big time and have to be scrapped immediately, which would be a very good thing.

As to the Mini, because all panels are readily available, it will be repairable, and sooner is best.

[maccers]

Looks like its been over silled at some point. The sills dont have the correct drain points and i can see from the ends where the original rusted sill has been plated over. Looks like the sills have been riveted to the floor sections too, or its might just be blobs of weld, cant quite see clearly. Taking it to bodywork specialist on Friday. 

[maccers]

Also to add, it has been re-shelled in its past, i have been told on numerous occasions that inner wing part and sun roof did not happen in 1976 which is the year on the log book / number plate. 

[dyshipfakta]

front floor corner unless within 30 cm of subframe mount ,seatbelt mount, steering mounting, brake pedal servo or roll cage or anything else bolted on thats structural it is a pass, however i would not want to drive one with holes in

It will be easily within 30 cm of the toe board mounts