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#1 Mini71s

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Posted 20 May 2019 - 02:02 PM

Hi All,

 

Hoping someone can help / shed some light on what I need.

 

I’m currently recommissioning a Mk3 Cooper S engine which was stood for a while. The oil pump has been primed, oil pressure is there and compression is good.

 

While I was cranking it over to reach oil pressure there was oil coming out of a small hole just under the oil pressure relief valve nut behind the starter.

 

I’ve attached a photo and placed a ¼ UNF bolt in the hole so you can see where it is.

 

What do I need to use to plug this as I can’t find anything listed anywhere?

 

Tried a ¼ UNF but doesn’t look like the hole is tapped?

 

Cheers Jason 

 



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Posted 20 May 2019 - 04:18 PM

No picture has been posted

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Posted 20 May 2019 - 04:24 PM

i guess he means the one under the P in this

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to answer your question. Something. but i would be pulling the engine to machine it.



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Posted 20 May 2019 - 04:27 PM

Hi,

Don't some block have a brass plug in that hole?

Seems familiar to me for some reason...

Cheers :)



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Posted 20 May 2019 - 04:33 PM

Sounds like the gallery that dumps oil from the relief valve back to the sump, the brass plug is pressed in and mot really under any pressure, if a rivet would expand enough to fit that would probably seal it with some silicone.

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Posted 20 May 2019 - 07:58 PM

It is as Mini13 has said ^ .

 

Originally, it would have had a brass plug in that hole. I believe the late cars used a rivet but they are prone to leakage.

 

I drill & tap them 5/16" UNF and fit a grub screw with loctite for sealant.

 

If you do fit a Brass Plug again, I'd suggest Loctite on that too, again, for sealant, but be sure the hole is really clean of Oil first. I use paint thinners for cleaning in this application.

 

A word of caution here - What ever you do end up fitting, don't fit anything that's longer than 3/8" or you will blow up your Oil Filter and / or Oil Cooler (if you have one) Just back from the entry point (and not too far back) is another vertical drilling that allows the area behind Oil Pressure Relief Valve to breath. If you block that off, it locks the Valve in a closed position and then the Oil Pressure is only controlled by engine RPMs. I have seen a few exploded Oil Filters from exactly this.

 

Just one further item to watch. You may get an Oil Leak in the gasket joint between the Block and Gearbox just down from where this hole is. There's another plug here (normally), it's in the sump rail. If the upper plug has been removed (you initial problem), then it's likely the lower plug has also been removed too and possibly missed on assembly. If it has been missed, it may seal off just with the Gasket. There's little Oil Pressure here, so it won't force it's way out, but it may weep.

 

If you do find this, the engine needs to be split off the gearbox to resolve it.



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Posted 20 May 2019 - 08:56 PM

Hi all thanks for the comments, really appreciated  - not sure why the picture didn't attach when i originally posted?

 

I'll try again below.

 

I've noticed some blocks have a rivet in there place but wondered if there was something of the shelf that I could buy to plug it.

 

Not sure why it would have been removed?

 

I will look into the solutions above ref a brass plug or shallow tapping it.

 

Cheers Jason : )

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