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#1 1999Mini

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Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:20 AM

I have recently purchased a 1998 Mini Cooper with Sportspack.

I am trying to decode the VIN number however the tenth digit is a "W" opposed to an expected "A" or "B".

Can anyone shed some light on this?

The VIN is: SAXXNNAZEWD

 

Some info would be very much appreciated. 

 



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Posted 11 July 2019 - 12:32 PM

This is what I could locate

 

S A X - MG Rover

X N  1300 (really 1275 cc)

N Sport Cooper or Cabriolet
A 2 door
Z 1300 MPi (high compression ratio, 10.1:1)
E RHD, Manual, 2.76
W Should Really be A or B (A = 1300 Special Edition  B = 1300) (Are you 100% sure its a W)
D Longbridge

 

Are you looking at the Chassis plate on the car or the Log book for the numbers ?



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Posted 11 July 2019 - 01:38 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Chassis & Vin List
MINI  MODEL  CHASSIS  AND  VIN  LIST

This should help to establish production year and model of any UK built Mini. This covers all models, but not all the 170 plus derivatives / limited editions/short production runs and specials. It is a very good guide for the vast majority of the models and the correct chassis numbers. Over the 41 years of Mini production, the lines at both Cowley and Longbridge built almost 5 million Minis.

The list below does not include cars supplied as knock down kits to Australia, South Africa and Belgium.  From 1980 onwards the Mini City was Sprite in Japan and Special in Europe…Early export models can be badged as just 850 and not as Mini or Seven.

MODEL         (Engine Size)              YEAR(s)     PREFIX        Starting from Chassis No.

AUSTIN   Mk I  Saloon  1959  to  1967

Austin Seven (850)                          1959-62       A-A2S7          101
Austin Mini (850)                              1962-67       A-A2S7          197201
Austin Seven De-Luxe (850)          1959-62       A-A2S7          101
Austin Mini De-Luxe (850)              1962             A-A2S7          197021
Austin Super Seven (850)              1961-62       A-A2S7S       125538
Austin Super Mini (850)                  1962             A-A2S7S       197021
Austin Mini Super De-Luxe (850)  62-64           A-A2S7S       307125
Austin Mini De-Luxe (850)              1964-67       A-A2S7         640203
Austin Mini Cooper (997)                1961-64      C-A2S7         138301
Austin Mini Cooper (998)                1963-67      C-A2S7         486096
Austin Mini Cooper S (970)            1964-65       C-A2S7        549501
Austin Mini Cooper S (1071)          1963-64       C-A2S7        384101
Austin Mini Cooper S (1275)          1964-67       C-A2S7        551501

MORRIS  Mk I  Saloon  1959  to  1967

Morris Mini Minor (850)               1959-67        M-A2S4      101
Morris Mini Minor De-Luxe (850)    59-62       M-A2S4     101
Morris Super Mini Minor (850)        61-62        M-A2S4S   75573
Morris Mini Minor

Super De- Luxe (850)             1962-1964        M-A2S4S   148817

Morris Mini Minor De-Luxe (850)   64-67    M-A2S4    296257
Morris Mini Cooper (997)                  1961-64     K-A2S4      138311
Morris Mini Cooper (998)                  1963-67     K-A2S4      491251
Morris Mini Cooper S (1071)            1963-64     K-A2S4      384101
Morris Mini Cooper S (1275)            1964-67     K-A2S4      552501
Morris Mini Cooper S (970)              1964-65     K-A2S4      550501
                    
AUSTIN  Mk II  Saloons  1967  to  1970

Austin Mini Mk II 850                 1967-69                 A-A2SB     1068001
Austin Mini Mk II 850 Super De- Luxe 67-69        A-A2SB      1068001
Austin Mini Mk II 1000 Super De Luxe 67-69       A-A2SB      1068001
Austin Mini Cooper Mk II (998) 1967-69               C-A2SB     1068151
Austin Mini Cooper S Mk II (1275) 67-70              C-A2SB     1068451

MORRIS  Mk11  Saloons  1967  to  1970

Morris Mini Mk II 850       1967-69                           M-A2S6    507001
Morris Mini Mk II 850 Super De- Luxe 67-69         M-A2S6   507001
Morris Mini Mk II 1000

Super De- Luxe  1967-69                                              M-A2S6   507001

Morris Mini Cooper Mk II (998) 67-69                    K-A2S6     1068197
Morris Mini Cooper S Mk II (1275) 67-70                 K-A2S6    1068471                       

MINI  Mk III  Saloons  1969  to  1975

Mini 850       1969-74                                                   X-A2S1              101
Mini 850       1974-75                                                   X-K2S1              101
Mini 1000     1969-74                                                   X-A2S1N           101
Mini 1000     1974-75                                                   X-L2S1N           101
Mini Cooper S Mk III (1275) 1970-71                       X-AD1               101

MINI  Saloon  1976  to  1996

Mini 850       1976-79                                                    X-K2S1       340101
Mini City (850)        1979-80                                       X-K2S1       633177
Mini 850 Super De Luxe  79-80                                X-K2S1N    635039
Mini 1000     1976-79                                                    X-L2S1N    340554
Mini 1000 Super   1979-80                                        X-L2S1N    633285
Mini City (1000)    1980-82                                        X-L2S1O    743114
Mini City E (1000)   1982-88                                     X-L2S1O    122249
Mini City (1000) Non Cat  88-92                              X-L2S1O   396449
Mini City (1000) Catalyst 89-92                               X-L2S3O 426565
Mini HL (1000)       1980-82                                     X-L2S1N   743004
Mini HLE (1000)     1982                                            X-L2S1N   122249
Mini Mayfair (1000)  1982-88                                  X-L2S1N        147144
Mini Mayfair (1000) Non Cat 88-92                        X-L2S1N      396449
Mini Mayfair (1000) Catalyst 89-92                        X-L2S3N     426565
Mini Mayfair (1000) Europe Non Cat 88-92         X-L2S1S         396449
Mini Mayfair (1000) Europe Catalyst 89-92          X-L2S3S        426565

Mini Cooper (1275) RSP Limited Edition 1990     XN-CA            010001

Mini Sprite (1275)    1992-94                                    XN-YA           049349
Mini Sprite 1.3i (1275)        1994-96                         XN-YA           058254
Mini Mayfair (1275)            1992-94                         XN-WA         049349
Mini Mayfair 1.3i (1275)      1994-96                        XN-WA         058254
Mini Cooper (1275)              1990-91                        XN-CA          011651
Mini Cooper 1.3i (1275)        1991-96                       XN-CA          031550
                                 

MINI  Saloons  1997 On

Mini (1275) MPi       1997-2000                              XN-WA        134455
Mini (1275) TBi Japan        1997-1999                    XN-WA         134455
Mini Cooper (1275) MPi   97-2000                         XN-CA          134455
Mini Cooper (1275) TBi Japan  97-1999                XN-CA         134455                               

MINI  CLUBMAN   Saloon  1969 to 1980

Mini Clubman (1000)        1969-74                             X-A2S2          101
Mini Clubman (1000)        1974-75                             X-L2S2           101
Mini Clubman (1100)         1975-80                             X-C2S2           258877
Mini Clubman (1000 Auto) 75-80                              X-L2S2           258877
Mini 1275 GT            1969-74                                           X-AD2           101
Mini 1275 GT            1974-80                                          X-E2D2         101                                  

MINI  CABRIOLETS  1991 to 1996

Mini Cabriolet (Lamm)      1991-93                              XN-WB          024857
Mini Cabriolet (Rover)       1993-96                              XN-WB          061481                                

AUSTIN / MORRIS  Mk I  ESTATES  1960 to 1967

Austin Seven Countryman (850) 1960-62                A-AW7           19126
Austin Mini Countryman (850)   1962-67                A-AW7           197104
Morris Mini Minor Traveller (850) 1960-67            M-AW4          19101

AUSTIN / MORRIS  Mk II  ESTATES  1960 to 1969

Austin Mini Countryman Mk II 1000     1967-69     A-AWB          1068101
Morris Mini Traveller Mk II 1000           1967-69     M-AW6          1068401
                                  
MINI  CLUBMAN  / HL ESTATES  1969 to  1982

Mini Clubman Estate (1000)        1969-74                X-A2W2         101
Mini Clubman Estate (1000)        1974-75                X-L2W2         101
Mini Clubman Estate (1100)         1975-80               X-C2W2         259639
Mini Clubman Estate (1000 Auto)   75-80               X-L2W2         259639
Mini HL Estate (1000)       1980-82                      X-L2W2        751080                                  

MINI  VAN   1960  to  1984

Austin Seven/Mini Van (850)   1960-69                A-AV7         12101
Austin Mini Van (1000)     1967-69                         A-AV7         1068001
Morris Mini Van (850)       1960-69                         M-AV4        12601
Morris Mini Van (1000)    1967-69                          M-AV4        1068001
Mini Van (850 and 1000)   69-74                            X-AV1          101
Mini Van (850)        1974-79                                      X-KV1         101
Mini Van (1000)      1974-79                                     X-LV1         10
Mini 95 Van (850)   1979-84                                    X-KV1         126932
Mini 95 Van (1000)             1979-84                        X-LV1         126932                                 

MINI  PICK UPS  1961 to  1983

Austin Seven/Mini Pick Up (850)  61-69                        A-AU7        87551
Austin Mini Pick Up (1000)    1967-69                            A-AU7        1068001
Morris Mini Pick Up (850)      1961-69                            M-AU4       91551
Morris Mini Pick Up (1000)    1967-69                            M-AU4       1068001
Mini Pick Up (850 and 1000)  1969-74                           X-AU1        101
Mini Pick Up (850) 1974-79                                              X-KU1        101
Mini Pick Up (1000)           1974-79                                  X-LU1         101
Mini 95 Pick Up (850)        1979-80                                 X-KU1        25448
Mini 95 Pick Up (1000)      1979-83                                  X-LU1         25448                                   

RILEY / WOLSELEY  Saloon   1961 to 1969

Riley Elf (850)          1961-63                                            R-A2S1         156851
Riley Elf Mk II (1000)         1963-66                              R-A2S2         369601
Riley Elf Mk III (1000)       1966-69                               R-A2S3         930221
Wolseley Hornet (850)      1961-63                              W-A2S1         156861
Wolseley Hornet Mk II (1000) 63-66                          W-A2S2        367151
Wolseley Hornet Mk III (1000) 66-69                        W-A2S3        927473
   
 


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 08:19 PM

Thought I'd give this thread a nudge as I have a 'W' too where every other reference say's it should be 'A' or 'B' - did you find an answer? Mine should be a 1997 Mini Cooper (MPI) but the VIN also indicates its an SPI (which it isnt). It is a Japanese import so would that impact the VIN? I cant find anything to say it would. If anyone knows would be appreciated - Thanks



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Posted 14 March 2020 - 09:58 AM

Thought I'd give this thread a nudge as I have a 'W' too where every other reference say's it should be 'A' or 'B' - did you find an answer? Mine should be a 1997 Mini Cooper (MPI) but the VIN also indicates its an SPI (which it isnt). It is a Japanese import so would that impact the VIN? I cant find anything to say it would. If anyone knows would be appreciated - Thanks

Think you'll find the Japanese models were spi's but with some mpi bits during later years. Read it somewhere so maybe google the subject.



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Posted 14 March 2020 - 10:38 AM


Thought I'd give this thread a nudge as I have a 'W' too where every other reference say's it should be 'A' or 'B' - did you find an answer? Mine should be a 1997 Mini Cooper (MPI) but the VIN also indicates its an SPI (which it isnt). It is a Japanese import so would that impact the VIN? I cant find anything to say it would. If anyone knows would be appreciated - Thanks

Think you'll find the Japanese models were spi's but with some mpi bits during later years. Read it somewhere so maybe google the subject.
Indeed, they retained the Spi system mostly due to the lack of space as they had the air-conditioning that took up most the space...

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Posted 21 March 2020 - 01:18 PM

Thanks for feedback...I'll do some more digging. An SPI with MPI bits would make sense but it definitely has ALL the MPI bits (electronic ignition (distributerless), Aribag/Roof Aerial, flat oval airbox, internal fusebox etc)

 

Cheers again



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Posted 21 March 2020 - 01:43 PM

This is what I could locate

 

S A X - MG Rover

X N  1300 (really 1275 cc)

N Sport Cooper or Cabriolet
A 2 door
Z 1300 MPi (high compression ratio, 10.1:1)
E RHD, Manual, 2.76
W Should Really be A or B (A = 1300 Special Edition  B = 1300) (Are you 100% sure its a W)
D Longbridge

 

Are you looking at the Chassis plate on the car or the Log book for the numbers ?

Mine's a '98 Rover Cooper MPi (originally on 12" wheels, ie. non-Sportpack), UK from the getgo.

It's also SAXXNNAZEWD, so it kinda looks like the "A or B" thing is in error.

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Edited by Quinlan minor, 22 March 2020 - 04:46 PM.


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Posted 21 March 2020 - 02:21 PM

Thanks for feedback...I'll do some more digging. An SPI with MPI bits would make sense but it definitely has ALL the MPI bits (electronic ignition (distributerless), Aribag/Roof Aerial, flat oval airbox, internal fusebox etc)

Cheers again

The best 'giveaway' difference is the radiator. Mpi's have a front mounted radiator and a more or less horizontal (bit upside-down) oil filter.
The Japanese have the side mounted radiator and kept the Spi injection system yet using the mpi block. Now I am no expert and some detail probably escape me as there are so many different versions that's its almost impossible to know everything about every version made in the world and all the versions depending sometimes on what day it was... ?
In other terms it is of mpi generation but technically, it's an spi.
Doesn't mean it's less cool! ? Would love to have a JDM.
But the W thing is also on my 99 mini 1.3i, and my girlfriend 2000 Cooper Sport has a Y... Maybe it's an export thing?

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Posted 22 March 2020 - 04:22 PM

That's great - thanks for the additional info. My radiators side mounted so that's the decider! :-) I'm happy either way - just wanted to find out as much about me car as I can. I know some people have a view of Jap imports but mines totally solid and has been bullet-proof so far reliability wise.

 

If I find out anything definitive about the 'W' and 'Y' I'll update this with the detail.

 

Cheers

 

R.



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Posted 10 November 2020 - 11:40 AM

Hi Everyone,

Has anyone been able to find the meaning of the W at the tenth position? A mate has an MPI with sportspack arches and folding roof.

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Posted 20 June 2021 - 02:44 PM

Letter W indicates the Country where the car was made, in my case, as yours, it was made in GERMANY



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Posted 20 June 2021 - 07:28 PM

The 17 Digit VIN Code is to ISO 3779.

 

Digits 1 is the Country of manufacture.

Digits 2 & 3 is the Manufacturer Identifier.

Digits 4 to 9 are the Vehicle Descriptor category. This identifies the model and country compliance standards it was built to.

Digit 10 is the Year it was manufactured. W is 1998.

Digit 11 is sometimes the actual factory (and possibly which line in the factory) the car was assembled at.

Digits 12 to 17 (and sometimes including Digit 11) is the unique serial number of that particular car.

 

In answer to the OP's (old) question, the W in the 10th position indicates it was made in 1998.






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