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#1 croc7

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Posted 25 April 2020 - 04:59 AM

I’m considering installing a dizzy equipped with vac advance and condenser/points, replacing one that has electronic ignition and no vac advance. Both have the same advance curve. I’ve been told to expect better throttle response with vac advance. Both are timed at 16 degrees BTDC at idle with max advance of 30 degrees @ 3000. HIF44, LCB, Isky Torquer camshaft on a 1360 with 9.75:1 compression. Thoughts??

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Posted 25 April 2020 - 06:55 AM

Yep. With advance should drive nicer and give better mpg.

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Posted 25 April 2020 - 07:03 AM

Is it a standard distributor? Mine is and has vacuum advance.

 

Why would you want to go back to using points? Like any mechanical system they wear, need to be replaced every service. I suspect the quality of some points you buy these days is not always the best.

 

Could you not fit a electronic distributor with vacuum advance?



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Posted 25 April 2020 - 09:17 AM

If it's an A+ fit a recurved 65D electronic dizzy

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Posted 25 April 2020 - 09:54 AM

All being equal between them, there shouldn't be any difference in throttle response but you usually get better mileage from them. Sometimes you can notice a slight improvement on smoothness on cruise too.



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Posted 25 April 2020 - 06:07 PM

Is it a standard distributor? Mine is and has vacuum advance.

 

Why would you want to go back to using points? Like any mechanical system they wear, need to be replaced every service. I suspect the quality of some points you buy these days is not always the best.

 

Could you not fit a electronic distributor with vacuum advance?

There is a guy in the UK, Distributor Doctor, maybe, who sells very high quality points and condensers.


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Posted 25 April 2020 - 06:23 PM

 

Is it a standard distributor? Mine is and has vacuum advance.

 

Why would you want to go back to using points? Like any mechanical system they wear, need to be replaced every service. I suspect the quality of some points you buy these days is not always the best.

 

Could you not fit a electronic distributor with vacuum advance?

There is a guy in the UK, Distributor Doctor, maybe, who sell very high quality points and condensers.

 

Yes,he does have a good reputation.



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Posted 28 April 2020 - 08:54 AM

 

Is it a standard distributor? Mine is and has vacuum advance.

 

Why would you want to go back to using points? Like any mechanical system they wear, need to be replaced every service. I suspect the quality of some points you buy these days is not always the best.

 

Could you not fit a electronic distributor with vacuum advance?

There is a guy in the UK, Distributor Doctor, maybe, who sells very high quality points and condensers.

 

 

Points still wear though .. why not replace the points and condenser** with a electronic pickup and remove the weak link ... ??

 

**  Some Condensers lately are much poorer quality-wise and last weeks rather than years like they used to. I know a few a-series owners where they have failed quickly or even fallen apart (wire falls out!) ..

 

 



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Posted 30 April 2020 - 06:18 AM

Just playing around with different applications. Points do wear and condensers fail, agreed. Electronic ignition systems have progressed to a point where they are pretty much bulletproof, but their drawback is that when they fail, you have your thumb out, looking for a ride into the next town. I have an electronic system installed on my car and it has performed well over three separate road trips of more than 5000 miles each. But, I carry a spare dizzy equipped with points/condenser. Belt and braces...

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Posted 30 April 2020 - 06:47 AM

Being using points and condensor for last 30 years without problems, sure only averaging about 3000kms a year :D

 

My old Defender TdI doesn't have points :D



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Posted 30 April 2020 - 09:20 AM

With the average mileage some admit to changing the points every ten years would not be much of an imposition.My TR7 broke down near Le Mans due to the 600 mile old new points wearing out the plastic can heel,refitting the old ones restored service and six years later are still working.Steve..




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