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[Hamstein]

Browsing random stuff on the ebay I came across these poly suspension cones, call me cynical but I bet theyre dreadful! Somebody buy and fit a set so we can find out!

 

 

Hmm, can't seem to paste the link but they're listed as -

Mini, suspension cone for Mini classic

[mab01uk]

Are they similar to these in link below?

Adjustable Poly Spring.....

http://www.theminifo...le-poly-spring/

 

Found this in some of my old paperwork, not sure exactly what year the advert is from (1998/99?) but I guess they did not work?......the company still seems to exist as PolyTorq but the Adjustable Mini Poly Spring is no longer listed. (Price quoted several years ago was £75 pair).
http://www.deflex.co.uk

 

Edited by mab01uk, 22 August 2020 - 11:01 AM.

[mab01uk]

Found these ebay links:-

https://www.ebay.co....tm/282735951996

 

https://www.ebay.co....tm/233507014956

 

 

"RED - hardness of about 80 ShA* - suspension components have a hardness similar to the original metal-rubber bushes. However, strength of the polyurethane is many times greater, and the unique properties ensure long lasting comfort. Our RED products we recommend for all the "normal" car users who want improve stability and better driving."
"YELLOW - hardness of about 90 ShA* - recommended for racing-sports vehicles, tuned.. etc. The suspension is much stiffer, as at higher speeds is important. Durability ensures stability of polyurethane suspension for many years."

 

Edited by mab01uk, 22 August 2020 - 11:15 AM.

[Avtovaz]

probably means these ones

 

 

bet the car dosnt sag over time though

[absx2]

Oh it will sag alright when the poly splits which I imagine won`t be too long if the car is actually used.

If poly was any good all the car manufacturers would be using it as it`s dirt cheap to produce compared to rubber.

[RustyAutoCityE]

Although there is probably a perfectly resonable explanation for it, I enjoy the fact that the ebay page says they have currently sold seven individual cones...

[cal844]

Although there is probably a perfectly resonable explanation for it, I enjoy the fact that the ebay page says they have currently sold seven individual cones...

I agree, something not quite right there

[Hamstein]

yep mab01uk its the big red bobbly one I saw. The deflex advert is interesting though. hehe, never noticed the odd number of purchases Rusty.

[nicklouse]

keeps coming up

http://www.theminifo...?hl=+strongflex

http://www.theminifo...?hl=+strongflex

 

[Ethel]

 

Although there is probably a perfectly resonable explanation for it, I enjoy the fact that the ebay page says they have currently sold seven individual cones...

I agree, something not quite right there

 

Well obviously you'd fit just one first so you can compare it to the rubber on the other side to appreciate how big an improvement you're getting.

[RustyAutoCityE]

 

 

Although there is probably a perfectly resonable explanation for it, I enjoy the fact that the ebay page says they have currently sold seven individual cones...

I agree, something not quite right there

 

Well obviously you'd fit just one first so you can compare it to the rubber on the other side to appreciate how big an improvement you're getting.

 

Ah there it is, the perfectly reasonable explanation that I just couldn't put my finger on.

[E23TFD]

Poly bushes are very much a std upgrade on more modern designed vehicles than the little mini.

I’m surprised there haven’t been more poly options for the mini, the issue with poly is the compliance issue as they are more rigid than a rubber based item. Transfers a lot more vibration due to the hardness but as mentioned doesn’t sag or give.

[nicklouse]

Poly bushes are very much a std upgrade on more modern designed vehicles than the little mini.

I’m surprised there haven’t been more poly options for the mini, the issue with poly is the compliance issue as they are more rigid than a rubber based item. Transfers a lot more vibration due to the hardness but as mentioned doesn’t sag or give.

Most polly buses that are used to replace rubber ones are total crap. 

[E23TFD]

I can’t argue either way as I mention they are far harder and less compliant for road use as they “give” in a more linear way where as a rubber item gives and compresses and slows the impact where as the poly is just hard! If your driving on a track great as you can setup and away you go as travel is limited, road going they really are not the best option and the size of cone would indeed lead to a very firm ride

[Spider]

This is a little off track in regards to the Cones, but in regards to Bushes, here's the rub on Poly vs Rubber;-

 

 

In regards to Poly Cones, sorry, but it is just the wrong material. Poly is nothing in the world like Rubber and doesn't behave like Rubber. While I've not tried or used it for Cones, I would tend to think that where Rubber will sag over time, Poly will collapse over (less) time. With the Rubber Cones, as long as they are not left to go too far, when swapping these out, if left in a cool dark place, they will come back to their original size and shape over about 3 - 6 months, good to go again. Poly wouldn't. There's also a good possibility with Poly that it will fail (collapse) with little or no warning.