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#31 Bobbins

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 07:17 PM

It will happen whether we like it or not.
 
The no driveway thing is no different to believing that houses couldn't be heated with gas when everyone was using coal. Currently there are more EV charging locations in the UK than there are traditional filling stations and the network is growing at a remarkable rate, whereas traditional filling stations are on the decline.
 
The idea that all EVs are charged at home, driven around using the available range then charged again at home is a complete fallacy, many EVs are charged at the destination whether it's the supermarket or en-route at a motorway service area. It's those away from home locations that have the higher current availability for high speed charging. It's different than running a petrol or diesel, EV owners tend to plug their car in daily to top it up rather than waiting until "the tank's a quarter full", they can do it at work or home so it's not an inconvenience and no need to go out of their way.
 
The revolution is coming!

Glad to see you mentioned the EV charging points vrs petrol stations - its a great quote, but misses one major point, an EV station is just that, often a single charging point.  A petrol station has maybe 8 or even 12 pumps.
 
Best known EV Tesla .. you can only charge their cars at their stations ...opps, that's really supporting any future growth.
 
Charging at home?  You take the government grant to pay for a higher power charger.  The prerequisite is that you must have a Smart meter installed, this can detect when your charging a vehicle and thus gives the government the ability to charge fuel duty on the electricity supplied.
 
I've had fully electric cars (not impressed) and know someone who's had a model X for well over 2 years and loves it - however even nearly a £100K (and thats what it cost with the spec he ordered) car has it's limitations.
 
Until battery technology improves it's going to be difficult, and that's slow because most chemical companies are actually petrochemical companies and they have no desire to see a move away from fossil fuels.
 
Hydrogen maybe, Japan is trying to drive this and the infrastructure to support it. 
 
There is an Ex JLR engine designer that's invented a very efficient compressed air driven engine, it's only been used in motorcycles so far but in the South of France there's a micro car manufacture producing compressed air cars, so maybe that's a hope too.
 
I'm not being negative and I'm very supportive of any future developments, but they are a long way off.

You mention Tesla and their charge points, yes Tesla's is the most extensive charging network by a long way and the highest power chargers as well, again by a big margin. It's this investment that has enabled Tesla to outsell everyone else in the EV market, the Model 3 alone accounts for 1/3 of EV sales and has regularly been the top selling car (EV, ICE and hybrid) in the UK since the start of lockdown. It's hard to understand why the other premium EV brands, Audi, Porsche, Jaguar etc think they can compete with Tesla without a properly structured charging network, a town car is fine but to be serious in the mainstream car market there needs to be charging support that drivers can rely on. Only Tesla has it and seriously, why would they allow other vehicles to use their charging network that they've invested millions in?

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 02:56 PM

Children paying the price for eco-cars: Congolese miners as young as 11 risk their lives for cobalt that green-tech relies on for £1.50 a day.
"Award-winning photographer Sebastian Meyer reveals pitiful truth of eco cars. He visits Democratic Republic of Congo, home to two-thirds of world's Cobalt. Meagre pay, dangerous conditions and long hours are all part of cruel narrative. The DRC, in the heart of Africa, is a country that has long been scarred by deprivation, corruption and communal violence. But it is also rich in minerals, particularly cobalt, a key component of the lithium-ion batteries that power mobile phones, computers, tablets — and electric cars. Indeed, our digital lives would be impossible without cobalt."

https://www.dailymai...ves-cobalt.html


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Posted 24 November 2020 - 10:07 PM

Children paying the price for eco-cars: Congolese miners as young as 11 risk their lives for cobalt that green-tech relies on for £1.50 a day.
"Award-winning photographer Sebastian Meyer reveals pitiful truth of eco cars. He visits Democratic Republic of Congo, home to two-thirds of world's Cobalt. Meagre pay, dangerous conditions and long hours are all part of cruel narrative. The DRC, in the heart of Africa, is a country that has long been scarred by deprivation, corruption and communal violence. But it is also rich in minerals, particularly cobalt, a key component of the lithium-ion batteries that power mobile phones, computers, tablets — and electric cars. Indeed, our digital lives would be impossible without cobalt."
https://www.dailymai...ves-cobalt.html


New cobalt-free lithium-ion battery reduces costs without sacrificing performance: https://www.scienced...00716101612.htm

Thankfully science is trying to move away from the reliance on cobalt.




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