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[whistler]

Has anyone tried this product from Toolstation?

 

https://www.toolstat...wE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

Supposed to be OK for 2 and 4 stroke engines or is it snakeoil

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[leyland73]

No not used that, have been using millers vsp for about 3 years now. Ethanol protection, valve seat protection and a small octane boost all in one product. One bottle 500ml will last me all year and is good for 500 litres of petrol.

[cooperd70]

+1 for Miller's VSP

[Icey]

Considering E10 isn’t at the UK pumps yet (just the labels) it won’t be doing a lot. And like most of these magic potions, I wouldn’t put any faith in it doing much other than transferring your cash to them.

[nicklouse]

I would love to know what it is actually meant to stop happening.

[Bobbins]

It certainly won't remove the added ethanol ....

[cal844]

There is a way to remove the ethanol according to YouTube (basically add water with a food colouring to attract the water and then pump the fuel off the top) whether or not it works as needed is debatable imo

[g0myw]

I get on well with the Millers products for car + bikes

[whistler]

E10 petrol has been available across europe since 2009. My question is really about whether any additive can  help counteract the damage to rubber components which E10 seems to be likely to do.

Edited by whistler, 17 August 2021 - 09:19 AM.

[Cooperman]

I don't know why there is all this confusion anbout E10. It is still going to be possible to buy E5 and that is fine. Classic car owners will simply use E5 and have no problems.

[Twincam]

I don't know why there is all this confusion anbout E10. It is still going to be possible to buy E5 and that is fine. Classic car owners will simply use E5 and have no problems.

As others have said, I've only seen the labels being added to the pumps but when challenged, they've said it's all in preparation for when it comes in full force.

"Super Unleaded" as you mentioned will still be E5, which we have been using for god knows how long now.

Quite a few on Facebook are going mad about how their Minis have started running rough and fuel pipes split etc. I wonder if any of those effected with the above issues have actually pumped in E10 or if its just general wear and tear/not serviced/tuned.

I remember when fuel pipes splitting was quite common, now I'd imagine everyone puts it down to the Ethanol...

Burlen are producing "ethanol safe" bits and fuel pipes are more than likely all safe too.

Edited by Twincam, 17 August 2021 - 05:57 PM.

[floormanager]

I asked my normal garage when they are getting E10, they said September.  I asked were they getting a super unleaded pump, to which they said no, they do not have a spare tank.  Guess I will have to find another garage.  Not too much problem near home but could be a PITA on a run somewhere to pull up to fill up only to find no super.

[nicklouse]

E10 petrol has been available across europe since 2009. My question is really about whether any additive can  help counteract the damage to rubber components which E10 seems to be likely to do.

Nope.

[Midas Mk1]

I asked my normal garage when they are getting E10, they said September. I asked were they getting a super unleaded pump, to which they said no, they do not have a spare tank. Guess I will have to find another garage. Not too much problem near home but could be a PITA on a run somewhere to pull up to fill up only to find no super.

I’ve been round europe in a 350z that will only run on 99, honestly nothing to be worried about. Both my minis have had 99 only for 7/8 years now, it’s fine. :)

[Dusky]

I don't know why there is all this confusion anbout E10. It is still going to be possible to buy E5 and that is fine. Classic car owners will simply use E5 and have no problems.

As others have said, I've only seen the labels being added to the pumps but when challenged, they've said it's all in preparation for when it comes in full force.

"Super Unleaded" as you mentioned will still be E5, which we have been using for god knows how long now.

Quite a few on Facebook are going mad about how their Minis have started running rough and fuel pipes split etc. I wonder if any of those effected with the above issues have actually pumped in E10 or if its just general wear and tear/not serviced/tuned.

I remember when fuel pipes splitting was quite common, now I'd imagine everyone puts it down to the Ethanol...

Burlen are producing "ethanol safe" bits and fuel pipes are more than likely all safe too.

This. A bit like the people who complain about poor quality ballpoint snapping, but they never used a torque wrench on them. The fuel line I sell has a 5-7 year replacement interval quoted by the manufacturer. Wonder how many Minis still have the original rubber lines.