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[Adam Anything]

Hello all, silly question incoming.

 

Hoping someone can point me to the correct part(s) for attaching the accelerator cable to a HIF44 carb

 

(not sure if links are allowed)

 

I have the abutment bracket from minispares part number CAM4942

and the 1275 accelerator cable minispares part number SBB10099 (along with another three out of desperation)

 

My problem is attaching the cable to the carb, I have done as in the image just for setting the thing up not willing to brave driving it like that for obvious reasons.

 

If anyone knows the correct choke lever to go with it as well that would also be greatly appreciated 

 

Thanks for any help

 

Adam

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[alex-95]

The white nylon end on the cable fits into the slot and the brass bit goes into the front bulkhead. 

[Spider]

I see you are using the earlier pre-HIF Throttle Cable. They actually went to a different Throttle Cable for the HIF Series;-

 

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

 

The Choke Cable you should be right with, however, there is a clip you need;-

 

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

 

 

Oh and yes, links are allowed 

[Adam Anything]

The white nylon end on the cable fits into the slot and the brass bit goes into the front bulkhead. 

 

Well thats embarrassing, the image looked to me like it was that way around so guessed wrongly the nylon bit was to prevent it pulling through the bulkhead, will attempt tomorrow.

 

 

I see you are using the earlier pre-HIF Throttle Cable. They actually went to a different Throttle Cable for the HIF Series;-

 

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

 

The Choke Cable you should be right with, however, there is a clip you need;-

 

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

 

 

Oh and yes, links are allowed 

 

Thought I'd brought both those parts will have to double check in the morning, have more than id like to admit lying around after various attempts and thanks wasn't sure about links 

 

Thanks both for the help 

[cal844]

Everything to do with the throttle and choke linkages looks correct to me.

Did the outer protective tube have a white plastic piece on one end? (the white clip goes into the slot that the grommet is sat in)

Also consider a few strategically positioned cable ties to hold the cables up from the exhaust, oh and also consider lubricating the cable inside the tubing to prevent issues.


Hope this helps

Cal

Edited by cal844, 03 September 2021 - 08:44 PM.

[GraemeC]

The grommet you’ve used for the throttle cable is for where the choke cable passes through the bulkhead.
The choke cable then loops round and the outer gets trapped under the black clip, next to the throttle cable.

The cable nipple for the choke then goes in the other end of the choke lever so it pulls over the top of the spindle.

[Ethel]

They are adapted from what was originally fitted to the Metro. You may find the pedal stops some distance above the floor if you have a mix of Metro Hif carb & Mini HS pedal.

[Adam Anything]

Everything to do with the throttle and choke linkages looks correct to me.

Did the outer protective tube have a white plastic piece on one end? (the white clip goes into the slot that the grommet is sat in)

Also consider a few strategically positioned cable ties to hold the cables up from the exhaust, oh and also consider lubricating the cable inside the tubing to prevent issues.


Hope this helps

Cal

 

Yes it did id put it the wrong way around facing the bulkhead tried swapping it around as suggested but the white plastic piece doesn't quite fit in the abutment bracket slot, same with the other two accelerator cables iv picked up, good idea with the cable ties and lubricating the cable i wouldn't have thought of that

 

 

The grommet you’ve used for the throttle cable is for where the choke cable passes through the bulkhead.
The choke cable then loops round and the outer gets trapped under the black clip, next to the throttle cable.

The cable nipple for the choke then goes in the other end of the choke lever so it pulls over the top of the spindle.

 

Ahh so thats where the grommet goes, mainly got a few because they were in the recommended with section, ill have to get a longer trunnion thing for the choke then attempt it

 

 

They are adapted from what was originally fitted to the Metro. You may find the pedal stops some distance above the floor if you have a mix of Metro Hif carb & Mini HS pedal.

 

This is my first mini so not sure id notice that was wrong but that makes sense and is probably where im going wrong mixing parts up from various things

 

 

Thanks again everyone for the help will try to file back the abutment bracket slot slightly to get the white nylon clip to fit and if not will try another bracket iv probably brought the wrong one.

[GraemeC]

The white nylon piece can be a tight fit in the bracket, but they usually go in with a bit of pressure.

[maystro]

An observation for other people buying throttle cables.  Just check your HIF44 abutment plate first.

 

Their must be a couple of different types being sold.  Mine has a steel bush all ready pre installed which suits the older throttle cable and not the later one with the white plastic keeper surround. 

 

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Although I think I prefer the abutment plate I bought because you can use the cheaper old throttle cable which is cheaper and comes with the brass end not plastic.  

 

Also that tricky choke clip once you work how it fits is great if you have the later fatter choke cables.  It would not securely hold my original thinner diameter choke cable but after wrapping the old cable with some electrical tape, it worked a treat. 

 

Brad 

 

 

[GraemeC]

I'll admit, I reuse the plastic and that allows me to fit the long 'heavy duty' type throttle cable:

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

 

It sits into the plastic ferrule quite well

[Adam Anything]

Thanks for the help everyone I got it sorted last night, tried a fair bit of pressure and it was a no go, user error I'm sure but filed a tiny amount from the bracket and it now clips right in.

 

 

Choke cable to setup next, will follow your instructions GraemeC

 

 

I couldn't find a bracket like yours Maystro, was probably not searching for the correct thing but in the manuals and on the videos I had seen they were similar/same as yours. On a side note, when you block off the intake vacuum outlet valve like that, does yours not throw oil back up into the intake manifold? Mine did so reattached a pipe to the break servo do you know what am not understanding? Its not a big issue because I want the servo and need to get a hose for it but just curious what I'm missing.

 

 

For anyone needing one that the plastic clip goes into, this was the one I ordered as seen in my picture above. -> https://www.minispar...gs/CAM4942.aspx

[maystro]

 

 

On a side note, when you block off the intake vacuum outlet valve like that, does yours not throw oil back up into the intake manifold? Mine did so reattached a pipe to the break servo do you know what am not understanding? Its not a big issue because I want the servo and need to get a hose for it but just curious what I'm missing.

 

 

 

 

Hi Adam,

 

Thanks, you may have just solved a problem I had.  
 

When I put my new 1293 engine in after upgrading from a 998, oil was blowing out of the only breather I had which was the one on the timing cover.  My old 998 had a tappet cover breather on the back so I didn't have this problem.  That is why I had to introduce the oil catch can and run another breather from the rocker cover which fixed this problem.   Now the catch can is empty.  Although I was just running in a brand new engine and I'm not sure if the rings hadn't bed in properly at the time.  I don't have servo assisted brakes so that vacuum port has been blocked for 20 years previously on my old 998 engine.

 

Thanks

Brad

Edited by maystro, 10 September 2021 - 09:18 AM.

[podifold]

Looking at the first picture you need to swap the position of the abutment plate and the black plastic spacer so that the angle of the cable is correct as it goes to the throttle linkage.

 

I had this problem with mine as the Minispares abutment plate is different from the genuine OEM one.