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[IronmanG]

Has anyone seen these. They are a direct competitor to the SC one which is always good for us.
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[Avtovaz]

thats a lot of shiney stuff really. it all depends on what you are trying to achieve. 

 

 

Carbs where good back in the day, but time has moved on, injection is so much better than carbs. You never see a millington engine on carbs for example ;) Now, a lot of engine wear is down to bore wash, and over use of the choke, and other things. Injection just has so much more control on what goes into the engine, but for the hobbyist, it is seen to be hard work. 

 

IMHO, the wet carb injection idea of the spi or what they used on cars like the clio an all integrated unit is the way to go. the unit you show is just the same but shiney.

 

 

 

My advantage will ether get a Lada Niva mono injection unit, or a su converted to spi with speeduino hidden. Itll make it so much more reliable.

[sonscar]

It is effectively an electronic carburettor.Similar was fitted to millions of early mainstream fuel injected cars.With the right ECU and proper tuning I suspect excellent results can be obtained.Tuning is not a quick fix(not for me at least)and my recommendation is for software that you as the user is familiar with and can tune yourself(dedication is helpful,problem solving abilities useful)Go for it you may enjoy the journey.
Disclaimer;I have no experience of the item in question but have experience of similar setups on a Siamese port MGB,Steve..

[Steve220]

Cole has put a lot of time in with the makers of this throttle body. It will rival the SC one, mainly on opening up the types of injectors you can use and sizes; It also will have a 38mm model for 998. It is NOT plug and play. The SC kit is debatably plug and play, however the D400 is terrible and the wiring loom is ok at best.

 

You will need an aftermarket ECU, wiring loom and a good knowledge of how to adapt the software, where to correctly locate sensors, and someone that can map it with port scavaging in mind. I have been running the SC throttlebody for a few years now, and have since changed to a Haltech Elite 1000 ecu (mainly for knock control and an IACV). I made roughly 180bhp on the last dyno session, so if anyone debates how good these are, I hope to be the first person on this set up to break 200bhp.

Edited by Steve220, 13 August 2022 - 10:42 AM.

[Java_Green]

Cole has put a lot of time in with the makers of this throttle body. It will rival the SC one, mainly on opening up the types of injectors you can use and sizes; It also will have a 38mm model for 998. It is NOT plug and play. The SC kit is debatably plug and play, however the D400 is terrible and the wiring loom is ok at best.

You will need an aftermarket ECU, wiring loom and a good knowledge of how to adapt the software, where to correctly locate sensors, and someone that can map it with port scavaging in mind. I have been running the SC throttlebody for a few years now, and have since changed to a Haltech Elite 1000 ecu (mainly for knock control and an IACV). I made roughly 180bhp on the last dyno session, so if anyone debates how good these are, I hope to be the first person on this set up to break 200bhp.

So what is your set up?

Edited by Java_Green, 13 August 2022 - 11:13 AM.

[Steve220]

 

Cole has put a lot of time in with the makers of this throttle body. It will rival the SC one, mainly on opening up the types of injectors you can use and sizes; It also will have a 38mm model for 998. It is NOT plug and play. The SC kit is debatably plug and play, however the D400 is terrible and the wiring loom is ok at best.

You will need an aftermarket ECU, wiring loom and a good knowledge of how to adapt the software, where to correctly locate sensors, and someone that can map it with port scavaging in mind. I have been running the SC throttlebody for a few years now, and have since changed to a Haltech Elite 1000 ecu (mainly for knock control and an IACV). I made roughly 180bhp on the last dyno session, so if anyone debates how good these are, I hope to be the first person on this set up to break 200bhp.

So what is your set up?

 

 

1310cc MPi Turbo with SC throttlebody. The picture was when I had the D400 ecu.

[PoolGuy]

I imagine that the Polestar Systems ecu will be ideal for this throttle body. 

[Steve220]

I imagine that the Polestar Systems ecu will be ideal for this throttle body.

Why? Any aftermarket EFI ecu will happily run this set up.

Edited by Steve220, 13 August 2022 - 02:13 PM.

[PoolGuy]

 

I imagine that the Polestar Systems ecu will be ideal for this throttle body.

Why? Any aftermarket EFI ecu will happily run this set up.

 

Some ecu's are more suited to the A series intake system, the Polestar was designed by Neil Turner who is a Mini fan and has designed the injection side of the ecu with the A series in mind. Also, the technical backup is second to none IME. It also benefits from rolling road setup from Lynx AE who heavily involved in A series developments.

[Tupers]

I believe the Polestar Systems ecu is can be used for a dry manifold system on a Mini similar to the Rover MPI sequential injection where you run an injector pointing into each inlet port rather than the SC wet manifold system and this new one where the fuel and air are mixed in the manifold.

I think running the Polestar on this or an SC throttle body would be the same as any other aftermarket ECU.

Edited by Tupers, 13 August 2022 - 03:48 PM.

[Steve220]

I believe the Polestar Systems ecu is can be used for a dry manifold system on a Mini similar to the Rover MPI sequential injection where you run an injector pointing into each inlet port rather than the SC wet manifold system and this new one where the fuel and air are mixed in the manifold.

I think running the Polestar on this or an SC throttle body would be the same as any other aftermarket ECU.

Spot on. Polestar's ecu has nothing special over any other manufacturer for this style of set up.