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The 2009 Scrappage Scheme Was Even Worse Than You Think...


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#1 mab01uk

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Posted 29 September 2022 - 07:30 PM

 

An interesting look at the raw data of the 2009 car scrappage scheme and its long term effects on the UK classic car market plus the loss of many cars that would have provided cheap, reliable transport for many more years.


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#2 Lowestoftmodder

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Posted 30 September 2022 - 07:56 AM

That’s a really interesting perspective about current classic car prices and the effect of removing so many of each marque in 2009. It’s not the only factor but one I hadn’t really thought of before

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Posted 30 September 2022 - 08:23 AM

That is quite depressing but in fairness though, when he lists each marque he shows you a picture of a mint example, it's entirely possible that a significant number of them were total basket cases and held together by rust

 

now we all know especially with mini's that doesn't mean they have no value, someone would be willing to pay the equivalent £2000 to take it off you and do the repairs over time, but you've got to spend the time waiting for that person to come along.  and if you need a car urgently then the choice is a no-brainer for most people

 

It definitely is sad though



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Posted 30 September 2022 - 09:05 AM

I've probably posted this before, but I used the scrappage scheme to buy a new car, trading in a 1988 Mini. We built the Mini from a bare shell in a month for £300 and then used every day for nearly 3 years until it was only just about getting through MOTs (with me welding bits on every year).

At the time the car was worth no more than £1000, so getting £2000 for it from the government plus another £1500 from the manufacturer was the best deal I could have got. Getting the new car also meant I could sell the motorbike (which I used to commute when it wasn't snowing).

When we did the maths on the cost of running both the Mini and the bike for the next 12-24months, the new car was the same but had working heaters, airbags, an OEM warranty, and most importantly - a cup holder. No brainer.

 

The one thing I regret is not taking the 1275 (metro) engine out before we put it in. We bought that engine with very low miles for £50. What's that kinda engine worth now, £1000?



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Posted 30 September 2022 - 10:33 AM

Money...., money....., money.... Puh...!

Is not there other things of higher importance then just money...!? Who would actually bother about £2000 in 10 years time compared to the knowledge of that you have saved a classic car...!? 

Personally I strongly dislike this focus around money and especially in the classic car forum. All these people thinking that their rare classic cars are worth its weight in gold. That only leads to catching "money people´s" interest. Most of them do not give a **** about the car, its history or - for what it is worth - its soul. It is just cool to have. This ownership drains genuine interest and thereby knowledge, skills and "feeling" about the car. Imagine what that will do in 10 years time....

 

Just as an example; there was a Healey on that list...  



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Posted 30 September 2022 - 06:22 PM

Cars are so generically the same these days.

Mass builds, on mass production lines, done by mass roborts..

Mass'ive prices and one computer chip shortage all brands are stuffed....

Not like the kld days when mrs miggi s on the mini production line ruined a few minis which wouldnt start as she took in her favorate yellow duster from her house to clean minis before they get shipped out....

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Posted 01 October 2022 - 08:17 AM

I have said it before and will say it again, the hippocracy of governments never ceases to amaze me.
Try scrapping a classic building and see how far you get with that.

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Posted 03 October 2022 - 02:46 PM

Try scrapping a classic building and see how far you get with that.

How many buildings were built by the thousand (if not million), and of those, how many are listed? A bit apples vs oranges, that...






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