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[Zaki]

Hello!

 

I bought a new engine for my project- 1275 from MG Metro (1988)- and I'd like to ask you guys about a clutch that would suit me best.

This is going to be a bit faster road car. It has Pre-Verto clutch mounted and I was thinking about changing it to Verto as I've heard

that is easier to setup/balance etc. (I know that I'll have to buy all additional parts like the new bracket, slave cylinder, etc.)

I am not gonna race it or raise car's power to more than ~80-85bhp.

 

What do you think guys?

[MiniMadRacer]

Persoanlly I am a Pre Verto Clutch man every time

[whistler]

Stick to the pre Verto clutch.

[Zaki]

Isn't Pre Verto's setup/balancing more difficult? Does the pedal feel like in the modern cars? I'm confused as I've heard that it is harder and for a comfy ride I should pick Verto.

Edited by Zaki, 17 January 2023 - 03:00 PM.

[nicklouse]

Isn't Pre Verto's setup/balancing more difficult? Does the pedal feel like in the modern cars? I'm confused as I've heard that it is harder and for a comfy ride I should pick Verto.

Nope it is simple. Get it balance and it is done for life. And the tolerances were better.

don’t try comparing any mini clutch to a modern car. 

[ACDodd]

Verto is the clutch if you want the lighter feel and smoother operation.

Things have moved on a bit and the verto flywheel is ideal for fast road applications.

Why people want to use a clutch that put more load on the crank thrust washers is beyond me,

https://youtu.be/hTmWuW2yYDc

https://youtu.be/uW05K_FglkE

Ac

Edited by ACDodd, 17 January 2023 - 04:54 PM.

[Zaki]

@ACDodd I've seen your videos before and are awesome. I am thinking about switching to Verto but ready sets with a flywheel are a bit expensive.

I would have to buy all the additional parts like boss, keyways, small clutch arm, different slave cylinder etc.- 650£- that's a lot for just changing a clutch.

This is why I don't negate Pre-Verto solution .

 

[ACDodd]

Ok then if you already have the older type of parts then use those. Bear in mind the old type clutch can also benefit from optimising.


https://youtu.be/myx0mnLYv4g

And

https://youtu.be/w3G5Tn6VsxY

Ac

[Zaki]

And what do you guys think about that kind of kits that are balanced but come with lightened flywheels. Do I need a slightly lightened flywheel in a faster road car?

 

https://www.med-engi...-light-st1-1234

[stoneface]

Sorry for the slight thread hijack, but interested in this too.

 

I already have a lightened pre-verto clutch/flywheel balanced with crank ready to go.

 

Crank, pistons and block is all built up without gearbox attached.

 

Because of the thrust issues I was thinking of going to a verto but 2 things bother me.

 

Will I notice much difference with the slight weight increase of a lightened verto over a pre-verto.

 

Does a dynamically balanced assembled kit such as MED supply need balancing with the crank? or can it just be fitted. Reason I ask is my engine is all bolted up and stripping down to get it all balanced again would be a pain and a cost.

 

Is the force applied to the thrusts much lower on a verto over a pre-verto?

[Icey]

And what do you guys think about that kind of kits that are balanced but come with lightened flywheels. Do I need a slightly lightened flywheel in a faster road car?

 

https://www.med-engi...-light-st1-1234

I posted in the duplicate of this thread that I use one of those and have done on the last few engines. Not had a problem with them (but did also point out the issues AC Dodd has seen with some of these kinds of kits).