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#1 Mini M

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Posted 04 May 2023 - 07:37 AM

Hi All,

 

I'm looking to change my mechanical fuel pump to an electronic Facet Silver Top Road Kit pump.

 

I bought this kit from Mini Sport at a show:

 

https://www.minispor...nterrupter.html

 

If anyone has any experience with these, where did you mount the pump?

 

I'm planning a trip to Minispares shortly on my list I have:

 

  • Fuel pump blanking plate and gasket.

 

Is there anything else I might need while I am there?

 

I have also sourced a intertia fuel cut off kit too: https://rimmerbros.c...m--i-C41220AKIT

 

Many thanks,

M

 

 



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Posted 04 May 2023 - 12:08 PM

I think most of the Facet pumps have a good dry lift performance so this would allow fitting in the engine compartment. Underbonnet fitting makes modifying the pipework/wiring simplier. I would imagine the paperwork/ specifications that comes with the pump will tell you.



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Posted 04 May 2023 - 09:11 PM

Facet pumps works best when 'pushing' the fuel.

Best place to mount them is under the rear seat panel inside the sub-frame. Take out the rear seat base and drill down through the panel. You can use the anti-vibration mounts if you wish, although they work fine when bolted directly to the seat base panel.

Piping from the tank to the pump inlet is easy and you just connect the other side of the pump to a shortened main fuel pipe. 

|At the other end undo the pipe into the mech pump and run new fuel hose direct to the carb. Use proper fuel pipe clips and make sure you have the latest fuel pipe which is Ethanol compliant.

I have just done exactly this on my 1990 Cooper, but I fitted twin Facet pumps in parallel for total reliability, but I always use the SS502 pumps (it's a rally car).

It is wise to use a fuel pressure controller before the carb.

You can make up your own blanking plate if you wish using a piece of 4 mm thick steel plate and make your own gasket.



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Posted 05 May 2023 - 06:26 AM

Mounted mine inside the boot, high up on the upright rear seat panel. Still have room to remove tank if nessasary 😀.

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Posted 05 May 2023 - 08:51 AM

mounted mine underneath seat panel up inside subframe on mounts. where fuel filter is on injection cars. fused feed from ignition live on fuse box thorugh inertia switch on bulkhead then simply route wire to pump through grommet in heel board under seat


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Posted 05 May 2023 - 09:46 PM

mounted mine underneath seat panel up inside subframe on mounts. where fuel filter is on injection cars. fused feed from ignition live on fuse box thorugh inertia switch on bulkhead then simply route wire to pump through grommet in heel board under seat


That is what I always do, except I never fit an inertia switch.

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Posted 16 May 2023 - 09:25 AM

 

mounted mine underneath seat panel up inside subframe on mounts. where fuel filter is on injection cars. fused feed from ignition live on fuse box thorugh inertia switch on bulkhead then simply route wire to pump through grommet in heel board under seat


That is what I always do, except I never fit an inertia switch.

 

would never run without an inertia switch anything happens normally engine stops so will pump. without inertia switch pump obviously runs all time ignition is on. too dangerous in an accident. only way to consider this is for rally or track cars



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Posted 16 May 2023 - 11:11 AM

There is a widely-held belief that cars will catch fire after an accident due to petrol running onto the hot manifold. This is not the case. The vast majority of car fires, which are rare in any case, are due to broken hydraulic lines with residual pressure due to the brakes still been applied spraying hydraulic fluid onto the hot manifold. Hydraulic fluid will ignite more easily than petrol. I was told this years ago by a fire officer who had experience with the analysis of vehicle fires.

The running temp of an exhaust manifold is normally far less than the flash point of petrol, unless the timing is seriously retarded.



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Posted 16 May 2023 - 12:20 PM

Yes granted the flash point of brake fluid is lower and is a major cause of car fires, but there is still no need to help the fire along by supplying it with pumped petrol.






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