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[t111drs]

I thought I would check out the rover certificate of conformity to see if the mpi mini would pass the  London emissions zone ulez. Having got a k series engine through with a NOx of 0.076.

 

I found the certificate available from:-

 

http://www.mgrccserv...-of-conformity/

 

 

but at £175, it’s not for nothing 

 

the ulez exemption can be applied for, but you need the certificate of conformity from the manufacture with a NOx value that must be 0.08 or less, eg Euro 4 petrol. With the v5c.

 

https://tfl.gov.uk/m...efore-you-start

 

 

It does have emission values   ,  but unfortunately the mpi mini NOx is 0.088. Close but does not meet euro 4 NOx.

 

but the other emissions values from the certificate may be of interest, see pic attached.

 

paul
 

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Edited by t111drs, 14 July 2023 - 02:24 PM.

[t111drs]

mmm!

 

having had another look at this, i am a bit more hopeful.

 

why?

 

the euro 4 NOx standard value is 0.08, which is to 2 decimal places.  Later euro standards 5-6 go the 3 decimal places eg 0.060.

 

To me that looks like decimal places are important, as they added a zero later.

 

So, with no rounding up or down.

 

the mpi mini NOx value to 2 decimal places is 0.08.

 

So I think it meets the euro 4 NOx value.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ssion_standards

 

This may be my optimistic interpretation

 

So, i will go ahead and apply for exemption for london ULEZ charge.

 

It cost nothing, but the last one took 3 months , no 4 months now i count up.

 

ill let you know, i may be some time!!

 

paul

Edited by t111drs, 15 July 2023 - 10:47 AM.

[Quinlan minor]

I wait, with interest.

[jamesquintin]

I live in Bristol with a similar emissions zone, would a London exemption cover Brizzle as well? (assuming the certificate is for the car in general, not just the London zone)

 

Q

[t111drs]

I just had a quick look and Bristol gets grouped together with other zones in the uk, under a gov scheme. 

looks like it’s the same euro 4 petrol requirement.

 

but I am not sure how to apply for exemption on the gov site, that’s probably by design.

 

All I can see a method for enquiry at the mo.

 

but it’s clear the London ulez is different.

 

paul

 

Bristol exemption online form

 

https://digital.bris...ir-zone-contact

Edited by t111drs, 20 July 2023 - 05:20 PM.

[jamesquintin]

Any updates...? This new ULEX in London is a pain in the arse

[Ethel]

Isn't there a classic vehicle exemption?  So any pre '83 Mini gets a free pass.

[jamesquintin]

Isn't there a classic vehicle exemption?  So any pre '83 Mini gets a free pass.

 

Mins a '98....

[t111drs]

Hello

 

sorry for the delay, here is where the application stands:-

 

I have applied for ULEZ and it has been rejected.  This is not unusual for cars that pass the NOx limit.

 

I challenged the rejection with a letter stating the mpi mini has a NOx 0.08 to 2 decimal places and got rejected with a std letter.

 

 

but the letter did state :-

 

"Petrol Vehicles must be Euro 4 or have NOx emissions equal to, or less than, 0.08 grams per kilometre"

 

 

So, i am going to apply again with a covering letter this time stating the above and that the mpi mini NOx is 0,08 to 2 decimal places.

 

I think the challenge to the initial application was a waist of time as the std letter reply shows they don’t look at the challenge.

 

here we go again

 

paul

Edited by t111drs, 05 September 2023 - 03:25 PM.

[jamesquintin]

I wonder if something like this would apply to us?

 

https://www.bikerand...he-ulez-charge/

 

 

I haven't a clue what you could do to get the NOx down

Q

[bpirie1000]

https://www.electricclassiccars.co.uk/

This would keep the emissions folks happy....

[jamesquintin]

I'd have to drive in the ULEZ everyday for nearly 4 years before its cheaper than getting an EV conversion 

[jamesquintin]

Hello

 

sorry for the delay, here is where the application stands:-

 

I have applied for ULEZ and it has been rejected.  This is not unusual for cars that pass the NOx limit.

 

I challenged the rejection with a letter stating the mpi mini has a NOx 0.08 to 2 decimal places and got rejected with a std letter.

 

 

but the letter did state :-

 

"Petrol Vehicles must be Euro 4 or have NOx emissions equal to, or less than, 0.08 grams per kilometre"

 

 

So, i am going to apply again with a covering letter this time stating the above and that the mpi mini NOx is 0,08 to 2 decimal places.

 

I think the challenge to the initial application was a waist of time as the std letter reply shows they don’t look at the challenge.

 

here we go again

 

paul

 

Any progress...?

 

Q

[t111drs]

sorry no progress, i just got a standard rejection email.

 

they dont answer any questions or respond to any covering letter, just the repeated standard rejection email.

 

i still think the mpi passes, but i lost interest really, i think the only way forward is the phone them and speak to a person.

 

i dont drive in london, for me it was an interesting challenge .

 

paul