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#1 IronmanG

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Posted 14 July 2023 - 02:16 PM

I just had a look at a mini saloon for sale. Had a week old MOT. I poked my finger straight through the offside sill just under the A panel. And 1 of the flutes was hanging off.
Other than that it did look decent. How much would I be looking at 2 change 2 outer sills. Inners looked OK from in the car.
Or just walk away. Its not as though its a desirable model or anything so I would guess any money spent on it wouldn't really be seen again

#2 Quinlan minor

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Posted 14 July 2023 - 05:17 PM

A car with a questionable MOT should be run away from, IMO.



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Posted 14 July 2023 - 07:31 PM

I would never trust a MOT to be the sign of a roadworthy car , I would think maybe the minimum it would cost to do the sills will be in the region of £5-800.00 of your finest British pounds but there are better qualified people on here who would know better than me .

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Posted 14 July 2023 - 08:37 PM

If the sills are that rusty i would be concerned about the inners so that then leads onto more expense.

 

Just replacing the outers with no inner sill work you would be looking at a days worth of work, however that also depends on who you take it to. Unfortunately inner sill invariably look good from inside, but those blighters rust from the inside out.



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Posted 14 July 2023 - 09:58 PM

Also are you sure the Mini did not already have oversills fitted....?

 

Oversills, What They Are And Why You Want To Avoid Them:-

https://www.theminif...-to-avoid-them/


Edited by mab01uk, 14 July 2023 - 09:59 PM.


#6 IronmanG

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Posted 15 July 2023 - 04:44 AM

Its sold so someone doesn't mind

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Posted 15 July 2023 - 07:26 AM

Its sold so someone doesn't mind

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Posted 15 July 2023 - 07:29 AM

A car with a questionable MOT should be run away from, IMO.


I've looked at a few where there is no way it should have an mot. But I spose im not a tester

Edited by IronmanG, 15 July 2023 - 07:42 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2023 - 08:20 AM

A car with a questionable MOT should be run away from, IMO.

I think you have to just have a good look at the car yourself, decide what you think it's worth, and make an offer. Having an MOT or not doesn't necessarily change the value that much.



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Posted 15 July 2023 - 09:36 AM

An mot only means the car meets the absolute minimum standard of road safety, it doesn't mean the cars in particularly good overall condition.
A hole at the front end of the sill probably doesn't come within the fail criteria of being within 30 cm of a steering, suspension, subframe or seatbelt mount. It probably also won't adversely affect steering, brakes or suspension.
I would expect to see and advisory for it though.
The mot minimum pass standard is very low, it basically means the cars just above scrapyard standard.

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Posted 15 July 2023 - 02:10 PM

Buy mine - its very solid ! (doesn't have a working bloody speedo as yet though ! lol !)

 

 

https://www.ebay.co....tm/134654056886



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Posted 15 July 2023 - 02:32 PM

Buy mine - its very solid ! (doesn't have a working bloody speedo as yet though ! lol !)


https://www.ebay.co....tm/134654056886

Nice that. At the barbers and haven't got my glasses but looks like what I'm looking for

Edited by IronmanG, 15 July 2023 - 02:32 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2023 - 03:16 PM

Cheers Ironman and sorry for the off topic ! - more pics on car and classic "1984 Austin Mini 25"



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Posted 17 July 2023 - 07:01 PM

An mot only means the car meets the absolute minimum standard of road safety, it doesn't mean the cars in particularly good overall condition.
A hole at the front end of the sill probably doesn't come within the fail criteria of being within 30 cm of a steering, suspension, subframe or seatbelt mount. It probably also won't adversely affect steering, brakes or suspension.
I would expect to see and advisory for it though.
The mot minimum pass standard is very low, it basically means the cars just above scrapyard standard.


Any hole within 30cm of a body mount is an mot failure, even a welded patch can fail an mot If there is any missed sections of weld.

The MOT criteria has also changed.... Any weld and repair metal MUST NOT be covered by paint / seam sealer etc. This has come from a very good tester (25 years clean record).

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 07:46 PM

An mot only means the car meets the absolute minimum standard of road safety, it doesn't mean the cars in particularly good overall condition.
A hole at the front end of the sill probably doesn't come within the fail criteria of being within 30 cm of a steering, suspension, subframe or seatbelt mount. It probably also won't adversely affect steering, brakes or suspension.
I would expect to see and advisory for it though.
The mot minimum pass standard is very low, it basically means the cars just above scrapyard standard.

Any hole within 30cm of a body mount is an mot failure, even a welded patch can fail an mot If there is any missed sections of weld.

The MOT criteria has also changed.... Any weld and repair metal MUST NOT be covered by paint / seam sealer etc. This has come from a very good tester (25 years clean record).

As I said, a hole at the front end of the sill is unlikely to be within 30cm of a subframe, suspension, seat belt mount etc. You can actually have a corroded hole with 30cm of a certain number of body mounts, has to be assessed on an individual basis.
Can you point out where in the mot manual it states welded repairs must not be covered paint, seam sealer.
It's a new one on me.




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