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[whistler]

Does anyone have one of these that is no longer needed?

 

Just struggled to fit my engine in my mk1 with remote diff housing and radiator installed. Needed to be able to tilt the engine easily.

 

Would probably need to be posted unless in South Wales or Bristol area.

 

Thanks.

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[Steam]

That is only one way of doing it and they are rare.
There are plenty of other ways of getting the correct angle and lift and if you google it you will see lots of alternatives

[whistler]

That is only one way of doing it and they are rare.
There are plenty of other ways of getting the correct angle and lift and if you google it you will see lots of alternatives

Last time I put one in with remote diff casing was about 1972 and I managed it by not fitting the radiator and being a lot stronger than I am now. Used to remove the radiator shroud back then so allowed a lot more wriggle room. This time it is with full radiator fitted and shroud intact. The one idea I had forgotten was to raise the rear of the car to help with angle of entry.

I don't need this cradle for now as the engine is in but if I have to take it out again it would make life easier for me as I'm on my own.

Some one has offered me one now and am waiting for a piccie before commiting.

[GraemeC]

I thought someone was remaking them, but can’t recall who.
I always use the lifting eyes that MiniSpares sell (think they were standard figment on a Morris Minor). Just one, on the centre front head stud, and this gives the right angle of dangle for the diff casing to clear.

If the rad makes it too tight side to side, remove the wok until the engine is largely in place - the last point where you can still get to the bolts easily to bolt it back on.

[Steam]

The remade ones are on Minisport but seem to be unavailable.
The factory workshop manual shows the dealer solution to the problem and the dimensions are on here somewhere.
Lifting from the front head bolt(s) or studs also g8ves room. I hve made 2 or 3 various lifting brckets over the years as well as just chain with a link secured to the head stud.

[whistler]

Bought one now thanks.

[Designer]

This might sound silly but considering it is vitally important to tighten/loosen the head nuts in a specific order gradually to stop the head from warping. Undoing only the central head nut front side of engine is going against this advice and could therefore cause damage.

I have always used the rocker cover studs and use a ratchet strap from the engine block to the engine hoist to achieve the required tilt. Yes I do remove the grill so the strap can pass through to the block.

[Steam]

This might sound silly but considering it is vitally important to tighten/loosen the head nuts in a specific order gradually to stop the head from warping. Undoing only the central head nut front side of engine is going against this advice and could therefore cause damage.
I have always used the rocker cover studs and use a ratchet strap from the engine block to the engine hoist to achieve the required tilt. Yes I do remove the grill so the strap can pass through to the block.

Your concerns are misplaced. This was the way recommended in the factory workshop manual and has been done by many for years. It only takes seconds to retorque the head but rarely is there any change. Hanging the weight of the engine, box and all ancilliaries of 2 1/4 inch studs is more likely to cause issues.

[Designer]

Hi Steam,

 

Thank you for the clarification. I have never seen a factory workshop manual.

 

Paddy

[whistler]

 

This might sound silly but considering it is vitally important to tighten/loosen the head nuts in a specific order gradually to stop the head from warping. Undoing only the central head nut front side of engine is going against this advice and could therefore cause damage.
I have always used the rocker cover studs and use a ratchet strap from the engine block to the engine hoist to achieve the required tilt. Yes I do remove the grill so the strap can pass through to the block.

Your concerns are misplaced. This was the way recommended in the factory workshop manual and has been done by many for years. It only takes seconds to retorque the head but rarely is there any change. Hanging the weight of the engine, box and all ancilliaries of 2 1/4 inch studs is more likely to cause issues.

 

I think the rocker studs were used for lifting on engines that had more of a straight lift like Morris 1000, A35 etc. I can remember gold seal engines sat in the stores with the lifting brackets fitted from factory, in gold paint.

[Steam]

This might sound silly but considering it is vitally important to tighten/loosen the head nuts in a specific order gradually to stop the head from warping. Undoing only the central head nut front side of engine is going against this advice and could therefore cause damage.
I have always used the rocker cover studs and use a ratchet strap from the engine block to the engine hoist to achieve the required tilt. Yes I do remove the grill so the strap can pass through to the block.

Your concerns are misplaced. This was the way recommended in the factory workshop manual and has been done by many for years. It only takes seconds to retorque the head but rarely is there any change. Hanging the weight of the engine, box and all ancilliaries of 2 1/4 inch studs is more likely to cause issues.

I think the rocker studs were used for lifting on engines that had more of a straight lift like Morris 1000, A35 etc. I can remember gold seal engines sat in the stores with the lifting brackets fitted from factory, in gold paint.

I think the factory used the rocker studs only to fit engine to box rather than l8fting the whole.

[timmy850]

You can see them lifting the mini engines with the rocker studs from about the 8:20 mark and even with the subframe about the 9:30 mark

https://youtu.be/o9g...U7PUDOkyCgZAQzp

[stuart bowes]

I never would have guessed they would lift all that lot on just two studs like that, that's some weight there

[sonscar]

Tensile strength of a 7/16 bolt is about 3400 lbs,a ton and a half or thereabouts,Steve..

[stuart bowes]

well there you go.. and there's 2 of them

 

I'd still be nervous though lol just doesn't look right somehow