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Do You Need The Jacking Point Brackets In The Sills?


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#1 -Lost-

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Posted 21 October 2024 - 10:22 PM

I'm replacing my outer sills right now, and the jacking point brackets are mostly not there, rusted away. Since the general consensus seems to be that you shouldn't actually use those to jack up the car, is there a reason to bother making new ones? Or should I just blank off the hole in the outer still and forget about them? They don't look like they would add to the structure at all, but I'm not sure.

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Posted 21 October 2024 - 10:44 PM

Errr you should use the jacking points when needed.

 

what points are you talking about?

 

what you think are jacking point may not be what others know as jacking points.

 

BL/BMC/Rover have referred to totally different points as being suitable for jacking. Some were crap.



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Posted 21 October 2024 - 11:25 PM

These guys, inside the sills and in line with the cross member.

https://www.minimani...king-Hole-Point

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Posted 21 October 2024 - 11:31 PM

You can absolutely use the stars jacking points to lift a Mini although the one in you link is only part of the jack point.
https://www.minispar...k%20to%20search



The areas to avoid lifting on are the slinging points on the corners of the floor pans. They were used to carry bare shells on an overhead trolley system in the factory and incorrectly labelled as jacking points in some manuals.

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Posted 23 October 2024 - 09:22 PM

Whether you use them or not, those jacking points join the outer sills to the inner sills were the transverse cross member is fitted and, as such, are part of the overall structure, Without them you lose some structural integrity.



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Posted 23 October 2024 - 10:08 PM

I'd be happy to delete them, though strictly speaking they are part of the structure. Plenty of other vehicles without anything similar between inner & outer sills.



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Posted 23 October 2024 - 10:27 PM

Make sure they are in good condition and leave them in.



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Posted 24 October 2024 - 10:29 AM

leave them in, as stated they do add to the sturcture but have blanked mine over. i always jack up under the subframe with a scissor jack. the original style jack which locates into the sill i have used in the past and unless you leave the door open you risk damaging the door skin when jacking up. also beware bending the front tie bars if you jack up under the front tie bar mount



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Posted 24 October 2024 - 10:39 AM

I mentioned on another thread about leaving them in and I use the jacking point for when im driving around as I only use it for removing fitting wheels. At home I will use a trolley jack.

I’m confident in my jacking point structure as I replaced it all and seam welded the bracket in place so plenty strong. I cannot be bothered to have a trolleyjack floating around in my car.

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Posted 24 October 2024 - 10:49 AM

smalll scissor jack fits in boot well



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Posted 24 October 2024 - 10:56 AM

smalll scissor jack fits in boot well


Yup they will do but I suppose like any jack you use they have to be positioned well to stop them from slipping.

At least the original jack is less likely to slip as it fits inside but then it’s using it in position. I use mine with a ratchet which helps. As I said it’s purely for use out and about, anything more than that I use a trolley jack. The amount of stuff I used to carry around in my old cars was daft thinking I might this or that. Now it’s kept to a minimum and if push comes to shove it’s the call of shame for a recovery vehicle.

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Posted 24 October 2024 - 11:01 AM

always keep jack in a bag so can keep collapsible breaker bar and locking wheel nut key in there. also hate to think what paint would look like if i didn't. not much room to roll about with twin tanks, boot board 12inch sub and tool bag






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