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#1 mbolt998

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Posted Today, 07:02 AM

Had the charging light come on dimly at the end of about a 20 mile drive. Changed the alternator, but after a similar length drive, it came on again. Found what I'm pretty sure was the issue: a poor contact at the junction at the solenoid where the alternator output goes back to the battery. The old alternator was probably fine (glad I kept it).

 

But I have a theory about why it only seemed to come on after driving about that far that I wanted to check. The light has the battery + on one side of it and the alternator output on the other. Since the alternator is supposed to feed back to the battery, those voltages should be the same when the car is running. But if you have a bad connection back to the battery, then the light is only getting 12V from the battery side, but maybe 14V from the alternator output side, a difference of 2V, so current flows and the light comes on.

 

When the battery is nearly charged, like when you've just driven a bit, the alternator outputs less. If you have a smaller voltage difference between the alternator output and the battery + it will not be able to overcome the additional resistance of a bad connection, because you need volts to break down insulation. That's why the light came on at the end of driving a few miles like that, but everything seemed fine when you started the car from cold, because it had a bigger voltage to charge the recently exercised battery.

 

Does this sound plausible?



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Posted Today, 08:09 AM

The alternator light shouldn't come on once it is warmed up and idling properly. Check the fan belt tension and the voltage drop.

I run really low idle rpms in drive and the light never comes on even when the battery is being discharged due to no output at such low rpms.

#3 mbolt998

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Posted Today, 03:53 PM

The alternator light shouldn't come on once it is warmed up and idling properly. Check the fan belt tension and the voltage drop.

I run really low idle rpms in drive and the light never comes on even when the battery is being discharged due to no output at such low rpms

 

Yes I know it should never come on, and it doesn't now, after I fixed the bad connection. I was just curious about why (before I fixed it) it only came on after driving for a bit.



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Posted Today, 07:36 PM

Yes I know it should never come on, and it doesn't now, after I fixed the bad connection. I was just curious about why (before I fixed it) it only came on after driving for a bit.

 

You are correct: if the main battery-to-alternator connection fails, then the alternator will (very slightly) charge the battery via "reverse" current through the ignition light - the current source being the field winding diodes of the alternator rather than the main output diodes. However, if the batter-alternator connection has failed, then some alternators will also go madly over-voltage and quickly destroy their internal electronics. Certainly it's something worth being absolutely sure has been fixed - a good check is to measure the voltage between the alternator output and the battery+ while the engine is running and while wiggling the cable: if non-zero volts are seen then the connection is poor.






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