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[Peter_NottinghamS]

Anyone got a spare £100k for a Works Mini?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[floormanager]

Love it, says it a new shell, converted to LHD, now RHD, even the registration might not be available! 

[RichMPiBlue]

Like the spots on the bonnet. 

[MatthewsDad]

Compared with the asking price of some standard 'S' models, and the price of other marques' works cars, not unreasonable. But a tad out of my price range.

[Shooter63]

According to DVLA that plate number is already taken, it looks like it was bought at an auction. Personally I would never buy a ex works car, at best you are buying a logbook and in this case it seems not even that.

Shooter

[Peter_NottinghamS]

According to DVLA that plate number is already taken, it looks like it was bought at an auction. Personally I would never buy a ex works car, at best you are buying a logbook and in this case it seems not even that.

Shooter

 

I've studied the Works cars over the years and most of them ended up as 'bitsa' cars.  Bits of this one, bits of that one.....

 

Other and 33 EJB in Gaydon, I suspect there are few genuine/original Works cars left.

 

Does anyone remember the restoration of GRX310D?  It was featured in one of the classic cars mags, probably 30+ years ago.

 

  Peter 

[beardylondon]

The reg number is live on the DVLA database, and on a red vehicle that was manufactured in 1964, and it’s not been MOT’d or Taxed since 2008. There is no export marker. And last logbook issued in 2005.
This all points to whoever exported it, did so without declaring it to DVLA, to keep the reg live.

Hence I’m curious why you think the plate was sold at auction?

According to DVLA that plate number is already taken, it looks like it was bought at an auction. Personally I would never buy a ex works car, at best you are buying a logbook and in this case it seems not even that.

Shooter

[mab01uk]

For anyone interested some of the known history and many photos of all the Works Minis can be found listed by Registration No. in a special section of the Mk1 Forum linked below.

(Note: You may need to register first to view the 'Minis in Motorsport' part of the forum).

 

The Works Minis History:-

https://mk1-forum.ne...wforum.php?f=36

 

The late Robert Young of the MCR wrote the definitive reference book 'The Works Minis in Detail' the result of many years of research by him and an essential read for any Mini enthusiast interested in the Works Minis.



"Robert Young's book covers each one of the 77 cars which, in their distinctive red and white paintwork, were a force be reckoned with wherever they competed. Build details of every car are provided, drawn from factory build sheets, with information also on when cars were reshelled and identities swapped. The details of the events entered and the drivers are the result of analysing hundreds of contemporary race and rally reports.
The result is the most in-depth study of the works Minis ever published, made possible by years of research by Robert Young, a lifelong Mini enthusiast. As the Mini Cooper Register’s Ex-works Registrar, Club Chairman and for many years archivist, he was well placed to write with authority. A proud owner himself, he had intimate knowledge of the little red cars."
https://www.herridge...minis-in-detail

 

 

 

Edited by mab01uk, 14 July 2025 - 09:57 PM.

[floormanager]

 

According to DVLA that plate number is already taken, it looks like it was bought at an auction. Personally I would never buy a ex works car, at best you are buying a logbook and in this case it seems not even that.

Shooter

 

I've studied the Works cars over the years and most of them ended up as 'bitsa' cars.  Bits of this one, bits of that one.....

 

Other and 33 EJB in Gaydon, I suspect there are few genuine/original Works cars left.

 

Does anyone remember the restoration of GRX310D?  It was featured in one of the classic cars mags, probably 30+ years ago.

 

  Peter 

 

I know of the current owner of it.  It's been restored again.

[Shooter63]

The reg number is live on the DVLA database, and on a red vehicle that was manufactured in 1964, and it’s not been MOT’d or Taxed since 2008. There is no export marker. And last logbook issued in 2005.
This all points to whoever exported it, did so without declaring it to DVLA, to keep the reg live.

Hence I’m curious why you think the plate was sold at auction?

According to DVLA that plate number is already taken, it looks like it was bought at an auction. Personally I would never buy a ex works car, at best you are buying a logbook and in this case it seems not even that.

Shooter

I presumed as the issue date is 1994, it was auctioned off, my MK1 has a private plate and that has a similar listing. It would be interesting to see what happens if somebody bought the car and tried to register it under its original plate, the add states that the original number is available.
As for works cars, I've known about a supposedly lost works car for years according to the owner, its an ex circuit racer, its been sitting on a trailer in factory for over 40 years that I know of, his father bought it for him back in the day, he says it is, I have no idea.

Shooter

[beardylondon]

Registered date is 1994, which is often where it’s been off the road pre DVLA computerisation, and hence without a logbook it was “registered” back on DVLA system on its original reg in 1994. That’s my guess. But I take your point, and you could be right.

DVLA has never auctioned it, as it’s not in their auction search. And as far as I’m aware, DVLA rarely auction off registrations that have previously been issued, normally (and someone correct me) most auction regs are previously unassigned registrations.
Also pre 2001 the public were unable to request a reg to be auctioned. Plus I very much doubt the DVLA would have been savvy enough to dig out CRX reg and bung it up for auction for a few quid, they don’t work like that.

The reg number is live on the DVLA database, and on a red vehicle that was manufactured in 1964, and it’s not been MOT’d or Taxed since 2008. There is no export marker. And last logbook issued in 2005.
This all points to whoever exported it, did so without declaring it to DVLA, to keep the reg live.

Hence I’m curious why you think the plate was sold at auction?

According to DVLA that plate number is already taken, it looks like it was bought at an auction. Personally I would never buy a ex works car, at best you are buying a logbook and in this case it seems not even that.

Shooter

I presumed as the issue date is 1994, it was auctioned off, my MK1 has a private plate and that has a similar listing. It would be interesting to see what happens if somebody bought the car and tried to register it under its original plate, the add states that the original number is available.
As for works cars, I've known about a supposedly lost works car for years according to the owner, its an ex circuit racer, its been sitting on a trailer in factory for over 40 years that I know of, his father bought it for him back in the day, he says it is, I have no idea.

Shooter

Edited by beardylondon, Yesterday, 06:42 AM.

[Peter_NottinghamS]

I know of the current owner of it.  It's been restored again.

 

Wow! It was comprehensively done last time.

 

Will there be anything original left?

[Raggie]

Trigger’s broom, but none the worse for that. As previous couldn’t afford it. Would possibly if not setting up a company right now - but price per value is rather rich.

[mab01uk]

As for works cars, I've known about a supposedly lost works car for years according to the owner, its an ex circuit racer, its been sitting on a trailer in factory for over 40 years that I know of, his father bought it for him back in the day, he says it is, I have no idea.

Shooter

 

 

Because many of the Works Minis existed with their registrations swapped over by BMC onto more than one car, Austins were swapped to Morris and vice versa, Mk1's became Mk2, plus were also re-shelled, sometimes more than once, due to damage and/or later sold off for use in other forms of motorsport....it becomes very difficult to prove which car is which and which is genuine and/or define how much it is worth...especially when another bodyshell, etc turns up many years later also with evidence of a BMC Works history and chassis no.but other key details lost in the mists of time....

Edited by mab01uk, Yesterday, 10:56 PM.

[floormanager]

Indeed.  I've just read 'The Works Minis' by Peter Browning (competitions manager).

This is his caveat on the information he supplies:-

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