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[GTiRsalter]

Ive had minis in the past and i want to built another mini my problem is as follows.

I want to use a new fibre glass shell to start the project and fit a Z-CARS R1 kit into the back.

most off the parts will be recon/new and i will use donor mini for some of the small bits'n'pieces.(not many parts will be need from the donor)

The problem being is that hardly any of the finished mini will be from the donor mini.

Could i get around an SVA buy saying i reshelled the original mini using a GRP shell (chop up and scrap the old shell), then did the bike conversion or would this be pushing my luck a bit too far, any suggestions.


I need some advise as to what the mini would be classed as, i rather it didnt have a Q plate.

if anyone has done something similar your comments are very welcome.

Ian.

[Guess-Works.com]

The best explanation of this is provided by the DVLA...

http://www.dvla.gov....es/regrebil.htm

I'll leave the answer upto you own interpretation....

but whats wrong with a "Q" anyway, unless you're trying to reshell a pre 73 car and diddle Mr Road tax.

[bluebottle]

yes you will need an sva, there's not enough of the original left to keep the original plate. basically all you'll have of the original is a bit of front suspension and the steering.

[Dan]

Right, basically you need to make up ten points to keep the identity of the vehicle. All the parts are worth a different amount of points, but the body is the most at six. Without the body, I think you have to keep both subframes, front and rear axles (suspension), steering mechanism and engine at least. As Guessworks says,the DVLA will tell you how many points stuff is worth. Fibreglass bodies are worth nothing sadly.

BUT LUCKILY

You don't get a Q if you take an SVA, you get registered as a brand new car. And therefore you dont need an MOT for three years either.

[GTiRsalter]

Kit cars which been built using not more than one reconditioned component will also be registered under a current mark.

I think i might go over budjet if i have to buy everything new and have the engine reconditioned to "as new"

So i think i will get a Q plate.

So the guys that have done a Z-CARS conversion can fit the kit and not need an SVA because they score enough points, but if in the future they decide to reshell using a fibre glass shell they would then need to do an SVA test...am i right.


ian.

[siggy]

Most of the cars that I have seen with the Z cars kit are NOT legal and should have had an SVA.

They have been rung using an old V5

Siggy

[Alburglar]

Yeah Siggy is right. Just use a single metro donor for all the bits.
Brakes, Hubs, drive shafts (although modified), steering rack, wheels. and you might get enough points to transfer the reg.

[GTiRsalter]

Alburglar, how are the drive shafts modified for the z-cars kit as i read that cut'n'shut drive shafts wont pass an SVA test?

I think i will go the route of an SVA and Q plate.
At least i will be legal as i would not want the car impounded after i built it cus the dvla dont know what the hell it is if i got pulled over by the cops.

ian.

[Dan]

As I said, if you take the SVA you don't get a Q plate. Q plates are now for cars of unknown or unprovable origin or history only. If you SVA a car, nomatter how many parts are recon it is classed as new. That is the whole point of the test, to prove that it is just as safe as a mass produced vehicle. You get more or less the same protections as when a car is type approved. That is why overseas spec grey import cars are easier to get hold of now, 'because they all have to be SVA'd on entry and registered.

[bluebottle]

its still quite a grey area, depending on which station you take your car to, you may have to go the sva route, or the ten points route. best thing to do is call up your local vehicle licensing office or check out the dvla's website, there's plenty of info there.

[Alburglar]

Alburglar, how are the drive shafts modified for the z-cars kit as i read that cut'n'shut drive shafts wont pass an SVA test?

No problems because you are not using the shafts for driving the wheels. The modified drive shafts with Z-cars kit, is actually just the centre piece of the hub with the empty CV cups cut off. This just keeps the front hubs held together.

Can't find a pic right now so will go take another

[siggy]

I am pretty sure that a Mini steering coloum (not colapsable) and door locks (not burst proof) will NOT pass an SVA test. Thats why you don't see any Mini based kits like the Scamp any more.

Siggy

[Alburglar]

Yeah but the steering column has major brownie points if he chooses to go the point system route

[siggy]

He really needs to look at what is actually needed for an SVA test.

But to go the points way he will never do it, legally

Siggy

[Alburglar]

Check the component list out for SVA

http://www.direct.go...2546&chk=SqS/Fn