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#1 DANTOO

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 08:40 PM

Hi guys, anyone know wher i can find any pics of how C/F boot floors have been secured..

Surely its not quite as easy as cut out t fit. Do you have to strenghten it all? It is a road car yes. the C/F is purely for show but Id like to fit it properly at least to be safe.

Many thanks.

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 08:41 PM

I thought it went on top of the metal and was as you say for show.

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 08:49 PM

I thought it went on top of the metal and was as you say for show.


Nope...

You cut a big hole and drop in your new shiny C/F / Kevlar panel.

This is a mod I'm planning on doing and my plan is to bond it in. Will also use a rear strut because to keep things tight but I don't really think they are needed.

But I may be wrong..... (its has happened before but don't tell the wife I admitted it)

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 09:04 PM

Now when you say bond? lol

Does cutting out all that metal, not take away integrity (excuse spellings) around the damper mounts?

Edited by DANTOO, 06 March 2007 - 09:09 PM.


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Posted 07 March 2007 - 10:06 AM

It shouldn't really take away much strength, especially if you still have the standard rear subframe in, as the subframe bolts into each corner so will reatin the rigidity and help in a crash. I wouldn't want to have a CF boot floor and a rear beam though.

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 12:54 PM

Not having a CF floor or any thing and maybe somebody else can advise but isnt there an issue with regards MOT and there being metel within 30cm of mounting points which if you cut the floor out the rear subframe mounts will be too close and so fail the MOT

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 03:46 PM

That's the daft thing with MOT's technically, if the floor had a rusty hole in it, you could fail it. If you cut a hole in it, you couldn't, unless the tester deemed it to have a structurally detrimental effect.

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 11:55 PM

how id attach it is using rivvets with load spreading washers one on the rivvet head and the otherside through the lap of the boot metal floor, would also look cool rivited along space them equily along making it look purdy

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 12:04 AM

Rivets, Washers and Bonder!

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 12:29 AM

bit of silicone sealer round the edges so u dont get soggy stuff? mind u the bonder should do that

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 11:28 AM

bit of silicone sealer


i would use tigerseal or similar. i know thats what some people have used when fitting CF roofs.

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 01:32 AM

Hi guys, anyone know wher i can find any pics of how C/F boot floors have been secured..

Surely its not quite as easy as cut out t fit. Do you have to strenghten it all? It is a road car yes. the C/F is purely for show but Id like to fit it properly at least to be safe.

Many thanks.

Dan.


Hi Dan

Not sure if you have already found your answers but i fitted one about 5months ago. Assuming that you got it from Curley the shape will be pretty square, with a bit that looks too long (towards the front of the boot) and as if it doesnt fit. What i did was measure the width of the boot floor, under the Massive "wings" that the floor rest on. This gives you the width to cut, centre it between the subframe mounts and cut it out! Then just judge the bit closest to the back of the boot (nearest the back of the car) After doing this you may be a bit weary as the back panel gets really flexy, but it stiffens up when the floor is in!! The next thing to do is the most difficult (not difficult but a pain) Because of the long bit on the C/F boot floor towards the front of the car, u will need to cut the boot floot right to the seat panel, then fold the metal part of the boot floor up onto the seat panel and weld it on. U may not want to weld it but i suggest you do so that water doesnt get in. Then all you need to do is wedge the long bit (towards the front of the car) of the C/F boot floor under the car at the front and then put the C/F panel down as normal in the boot. So you got a bit that kinda goes like this ( __\-- ) the forward slash being C/F panel and the under scall being the inside of the boot and the minuses being the underside of the car near the subframe mounting panel. So the C/F boot floor then rotates to sit in place. Hope this makes sense, it was the olny way i could think to describe it!! Then all you have to du is use a bit of Mastic to secure the C/F to the metal and then drill holes and rivet or Bolt the floor down. You will also need to put rivets (or bolts) on the long piece that goes under the car, these will be on the inside of the car under the rear seat. Then just run a bit of general purpose silicone around the edge to stop water getting in. Its the best way i could find of doing it without having big gaping holes to fill or panel beating the funny curvy bit on the boot floor near the seat panel. Hope this helps. Remember to wear a face mask when cutting the Carbon fibre as it is nasty stuff, and when riveting or bolting to use washers to disperse the pressure and prevent cracking and splitting! And use BIG rivets!

Good luck

Edited by AndyR, 24 March 2007 - 07:35 PM.





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