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[megla_mini]

OK, So last week i discovered my indicators werent working any more. Dang, i thought, so asked on TMF if any one new any reason why. The solution was to be a new flasher unit. The Hazards worked at this point. I popped over to mini speed and asked for their finest flasher unit for a 1993 1275 carb (not injection) and they sold me a black flasher unit. I went home and started to attack the inerior. I read my haynes manual and studied the wiring diagrams and tried to locate the indicator flasher unit. The only unit i coulod find was the Hazards. Confused i began to strip my interior to no avail. I removed every thing from inside the dash and began to trace wires. I began to get even more confused. The Hazard switch which should have 6 wires going into it only had four, the light green and brown (indicator) wires had vanished. I rummaged through the mass of wires and began to seperate them and could not find the indicator wires. I might also point out at this point that why did they have to use Light Green and Brown and Light Green and Orange, they look the same.

Any way I followed the main loom into the engine bay where i found 3 yellow relays. 1 on the left on the left wing which had the Light Green and Brown and The Solid green (according to haynes the wires i was looking for) but a black (guessing earth) and another wire which i have no idea about. The other two relays are on the bulkhead on the right side of the engine bay. Any way i am fairly sure during my invesigation i broke some thing elese, idioit, and now the hazards dont work. I am sure all the bulbs are good and i have cleaned all the metal contacts on each of the inidicators and i have replaced every fuse in the fuse box with the new from half**kinuselessfords.

So here is the best bit of all of it. I was looking at mini spares this morning, and i discovered that from 1991 on the flasher unit for the indicators and hazards are the same unit. I just want some one to fix it Who ami spsoe to believe Mini spares or haynes and hwo the hell to i make these things flash like they once did, Some one, plese help or i fear this mini might be found hanging from its axel under black friars bridge. >

Mini Spares flasher unit

[Sammy D]

It should be above your right knee as you sit in the car. Or just hidden behind the speedo housing.

Mine is a silver round one which I need to replace as it no longer flashes (76 clubby). Saying that, in my other mini (an 83 Mayfair) I can't find the flasher unit at all too :S

[Scubadriver]

I know you said you have a 93 model with the combined flasher/hazard unit, but if the indicator wires dont run to it, they must have a seperate flasher.

On my car (1991) there is a small silver relay, behind the dash and pretty close to the steering column, it has just 2 wires going to it - could possibly be the same on yours - maybe someone has altered the wiring at somepoint. I have random wires and bodged connections all over my loom - one day i'll get round to sorting them all out!

[megla_mini]

It should be above your right knee as you sit in the car. Or just hidden behind the speedo housing.

should is the word here. Has any one had this problem before. I also wonder, what are the 3 yellow relays in the engine bay for. mainly the one next to the bulhead on the left wing, any one got any idea.

[Dan]

Ignore the above should's. Also before I continue I shall say that I will talk about relays and flasher units as two seperate things as they are not the same despite what is written above. Your car is very different from all the earlier Minis with the two metal can flasher units that everybody always talks about as being the only system, this is garbage.

Your car HAS (not should have) one single flasher unit and a relay that work together to control the signal system. The flasher unit is always live and supplying power to the hazard switch, if you activate the switch it connects the output of the unit to the lamps. Simple. When the switch is not activated it is sending the flasher signal from the unit to the indicator switch. However this would mean that the indicators also were always live and you want them to only function when the ignition is on. So there is an ignition activated relay that interupts the signal, this is the one you have identified in the engine bay with the indicator coloured wires. When the ignition is active it closes and allows the signal to reach the indicator switch. This is as it should be. The other relays in the engine bay are for things like cooling fans and the starter solenoid so just leave them alone!

You should definitely have indicator wires arranged as a pair at one end of the hazard switch connector and these two wires must be connected together by the switch while the hazards are switched off in order to have indicators with the ignition turned on. The other end of the switch should have a bundle of 4 wires.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here but it gets very annoying that people always just assume the wiring on the Mini has never been changed in 41 years of production and give advice about the wrong system, simply confusing the issue.

[megla_mini]

"BLINK"

Dan (in a none homosexual way) I LOVE YOU, that is exactly what i wanted to know. I massively appreciate this. I will let you know how i get on. Once again Many Thanks.