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#1 smudger

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 03:06 PM

Reading MiniMag April 2006 and:

"WHEELY SPECIAL

These new wheels are sure to be big news on the Mini scene. Previously those running solid 8.4" discs have been restricted to 12/13" or rare Japanese 10".

Force Racing (Carl) has developed a 5x10" three-piece modular wheel that features a polished outer rim with brush finished exceptionally shallow inner rim that dosent interfere with the caliper.

£120 EACH.

My question is this.

Has anyone used em and are they ok for road cars?

I gather you need to use an inner tube. Is this right?

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Posted 06 April 2007 - 01:13 PM

Reading MiniMag April 2006 and:

"WHEELY SPECIAL

These new wheels are sure to be big news on the Mini scene. Previously those running solid 8.4" discs have been restricted to 12/13" or rare Japanese 10".

Force Racing (Carl) has developed a 5x10" three-piece modular wheel that features a polished outer rim with brush finished exceptionally shallow inner rim that dosent interfere with the caliper.

£120 EACH.

My question is this.

Has anyone used em and are they ok for road cars?

I gather you need to use an inner tube. Is this right?

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this is a blast from the past,
so i'll answer you questions,
the wheel is amde up of a 2" inner section, and a 3" outer asection, the inner is so that it just does not reach the caliper so so no clearance problems,
they have as near as i can remember 30mm poss offset, not really any worse than my 7" wide wheels,
you don't have to use tubes but trying to find a fitter who will go near them is another matter, at least using tubes [as iv'e said all along] you build up the wheel yourself, so only yourself to blame if you damage it, if you prefere to go tubeless, they can be sealed up as any other modular wheel, and tyre goes on as normal,
not recomended for everyday transport due to all the component parts ,and the polished rim.

if you want to run 8.4s and 10s on an everyday car, buy some of the jap cast ones,
can't be more honest than that lol.,

by the way, i have no more cast centres so its billet only now so add £20.00 per wheel.


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Edited by fastcarl, 09 April 2007 - 07:27 AM.


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Posted 06 April 2007 - 03:27 PM

to be honest keeping em clean and tidy is not a problem, but will they withstand ALOT of abuse caused by hard driving and corners?

My worry is that the bolt shears (have read that a few times about the MB alloys) whilst on track.

What are the weights of them?

At that price they are up their with MB alloys, so whats the advantage of these over MB?

Do they come with nuts supplied?

What other 10" wheel designs do you do, prices and weights please.

(also, dont suppose you want to swop a set for brand new CXRs?)

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Posted 06 April 2007 - 04:01 PM

I'll add another question if I may. It says you can use 8.4" solid brakes. Does that mean vented is a no no? Or can the offset be increased clearing the caliper and shares in a bearings company be bought?

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Posted 06 April 2007 - 04:03 PM

More the merrier lol

Well thats a thought too, because i have non vented 4 pots on the Mosquito at moment, and these are a bit wider than the standard caliper.

So would they fit under without mods too?

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 07:42 AM

More the merrier lol

Well thats a thought too, because i have non vented 4 pots on the Mosquito at moment, and these are a bit wider than the standard caliper.

So would they fit under without mods too?



if you measure back from the drive flange face to the caliper, on your setup, if it measures about 55mm,[take this measurement just on the outside edge of where the lumps are cast in for the pistons,,near where the retaing pins fit] then you will be ok ,if its like the vented where the caliper is offset out towards the drive flange its a no go,

smudger ,there are not a fair few sets of these wheels out and about,
and i am going to say something no other wheel manufacturer would say , and that is that i have had one rim section returned to me with a problem, i dont expect the owner of this rim to make any comments on the subject, the problem is under investigation,

that aside , i have had no feedback from any customer personally, of by hearsay, of any problems,both in competition or on road cars,

but i must reiterate if you want some on a daily driver, then thats your choice, but as i said earlier, buy cast as by there construction alone they would be virtually servise free,

and finally, wheel nuts are not included but can be supplied "at cost," and as fo r the benefits over MB. i can think of none, except delivery time, do you want them in this life of the next,lol.


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Edited by fastcarl, 09 April 2007 - 07:44 AM.


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Posted 09 April 2007 - 07:46 PM

You can fit 10" Wellers over Metro 4 pots too, you have to grind back the caliper though :(

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 09:01 AM

Thanks for the honest reply Carl.

I am getting the Mosquito up in the air this week, will measure to find out.

What bolts are used to secure the 3 pieces together? Have read a few Mini Worlds over the years, and a few times you read that the bolts shear under force.

I dont mind them buckling, its a fact of life when you go fast and clip things, its just that if the bolts shear half way around, will this cause them to split and dig the disk in the floor?

I am VERY tempted mind, its just sorting the measurements, tubes etc all needed to run em.

The weight saving, even on the CXRs will be massive, weight means speed!

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 03:57 PM

i dont know what bolts are used ! but i think there done up to somthing like 12 nm i might be wrong mind just read somthing on turbo mins about what they are toqued upto

carl will be able to tell you exact!

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 04:34 PM

I also believe that Carl uses more bolts that the other companies making splits.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 04:27 PM

is there a website for force racing? because I'd be interested in the esigns of the wheels to see which would suit...

any pics???

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 04:41 PM

Force Racing's website




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