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[D3nch]

Does anyone know the laws on the Angel Eyes? Is it illegal to have a blue/red/green light as side light?????

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[Dan]

Yes.

[t@z]

you dont want angel eyes though, personally i think they look tad bit silly, stick with normal lights

[D3nch]

Damn, i like em'!

oh well saves me £40

Musical Air Horn next....

[Boab]

Oh no!!!!!


Anyone got a set of normal headlights :grin:

[smudgersmb]

Angel Eyes have no "E" mark so cannot be used on the road. As for the side light issue, it depends on the Police/MOT station on a given day.

But since they are not "E" marked the side light thing is null/void.


Smudger
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[Jammy]

I thought you could get some that were "E" marked, but personally I agree with T@Z, in my opinion they are the next thing up from LED washer jets and under car neons.

[binge]

Yes, you can get angle eyes which are legal. But they have to be white like a headlight.

Personally I think they look poo and its a chav thing. But thats just my 2 cents worth.

Ive got musical air horns, They're great!

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[Guess-Works.com]

At some stage I think this will end up an FAQ, so was doing a bit of research last night..

Basically, the E mark thing is true, and I have seen E marked clear ( no halo ) replacements for the sealed beam, they have the shaped rear reflector like the more modern production cars which provides the light pattern. They are not cheap and run in to the 100's of pounds, but I'm lost for the a link to a site atm... will keep searching..

As for colours. the only forward facing colours which are allowed are white ( headlights etc ) and amber ( for indicators and side markers ). Anything else is deemed obstructiive to identification of vehicle direction., Blue Green and Red are especially fround upon as they are the colours used by emergency vehicles.

[Jammy]

Do you know what the law is on tints? Because I've seen new 4x4s going around with what look like tinted bulbs or something, not sure, but I think they've come like that as standard.

[smudgersmb]

To put Angel Lights thru testing to get "E" marked would cost thousands. If a company has done this, for instance Mini Trailers< then they would put it in the Mini Magazines since they would be the first. Just look for a Headlight with "E" mark and arrows showing they way they are meant to be, Right Hand Drive or Left Hand Drive.

I bought mine from Mini Trailers who say on their site that they are not legal, took it for MOT and it failed on lights, no beam direction and no "E" mark.

Took it to another MOT station who passed it easy.

Smudger
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[Dan]

Guessworks is right, there is a complex reflector 7" H4+sidelight headlamp available which is E-marked. It's not a halo type, but it is complex reflector. It might be a Cibie unit.

This is a grey area in the law though. Technically an MOT tester is within his rights to fail you if your lamps don't have an E-mark. BUT, if you take an SVA they don't need to be. They will pass if they can be 'demonstrated to perform in an equivalent manner to a unit with an approval mark', which means if they have the right beam pattern they should pass whether marked or not. So if they pass the SVA, they should pass an MOT (and that is a lot cheaper than Euro-type testing). The German tests are also equivalent, so a unit marked as having passed the TUV (or maybe it's the other test for an individual item, but I can't remember the name of it) would also be acceptable. Basically, the European Union isn't a federal government so their mark isn't binding.

And you might have a slim chance of getting away with pale yellow sidelights, as yellow is also allowed for headlamps in Britain (like French cars). But I am reasonably sure that you still have to have white sidelights as you can probably only have yellow sidelights if you also have yellow headlamps. And I think that most cars that were sold here with yellow headlamps (which hasn't happened for a long time) had seperate sidelights which were always white.

Red, blue or green would be right out though as Guessworks said.

[m3ntalist]

what about halo spotlamps?

[Dan]

If the halo's light up as part of your sidelights, and they're on the front of the car then yes they have to be white too. If they light up by a seperate switch which you 'never use on the road officer' then you might be able to get away with a different colour. It would still technically be illegal probably.

[crazyminidriver]

hey people i have a problem my drivers side angel eye has two big cracks on it dont ask me how i did it lol i aint a clue but i just wanted to ask peeps if any of u have an angel eye going which i could have or where i could get one from please can u let me know
thanks
claire xxx