Hey all very long time no speak!
I have finished my old restoration and i am starting a z cars project.I have a spare shell and no v5 ducument or shud i say i used to.
What happened is that the spare shell i have was goin to be finished and used for my restoration project however it was going to take too much time and money at the time.It onoly requires a little work and would make a sutable shell for the z cars project.
However the shell i bough for my restoration and used had no v5 so i applied to the dvla for a v5 to got with that shell. I just wanted to no where i stoof with this shell????
Can anyone help at all??
Many Thanks
Phil
V5 Document And The Z Cars Mini
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, Sep 16 2007 07:34 PM
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Posted 16 September 2007 - 08:14 PM
Is it still registered, have you run the registration (assuming there is one) through the dvlc website?
If not you may well be looking at sva.
If not you may well be looking at sva.
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Posted 16 September 2007 - 08:59 PM
Is it still registered, have you run the registration (assuming there is one) through the dvlc website?
If not you may well be looking at sva.
my current restoration is registered with the dvla but it is regestered as off the road. all i need to do is get a current v5 document for the new shell as i have one for the old shell but i wanted to no if anyone new where i stood with reguards to using the old shell as it does not have a registration well it does but it will be used on my restoration.
will the dvla come back to me with a registration i will have to use for my restoration as a result of me having used a new shell or will i be able to use the number it came with even thought the shell is different now.
then to make matters more complicated i want to use the the shell that origionally came with my restoration for my z cars project.but the problem is it wont have a number plate as the number will be used with the new shell....possibly????
cheers phil
Edited by philly c, 16 September 2007 - 09:01 PM.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:06 AM
I've got a bit confused with shells and V5s. Are you saying that you have a shell (shell B) that you used to have a V5 for and lost? If so you should just be able to apply for the V5 again. As for whether you'd need a SVA for it after completing the conversion I won't go into, as we've gone into it many times before, and the topics end up just going around in circles.
If your saying you used the V5 for shell B on your restoration then you have shell B no long has an ID, and will need a SVA, and will most likely be a Q plate.
If your saying you used the V5 for shell B on your restoration then you have shell B no long has an ID, and will need a SVA, and will most likely be a Q plate.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:42 AM
Scratches head 
See if I've got this right
You had a registered car (car A), you bought a new shell for the Zcar (car Z) and have moved the registration from A to Z. you now want to re register car A but are short of a registration?
If both of these cars have shells that are currently registered (are on the dvla database) then the plates and matching V5's should stay with the shells.
If you want to transfer a numberplate, the donor vehicle needs to be on the road - a bit of an over simplification: it's all on the DVLA website.
As said, whether the Z car can just go on the road with the identity of the shell is another issue - depends on how much of the original car is left and how you translate the rules.
They're the rules as I understand them, how you attempt to apply them is up to you. A car with an MoT and a tax disc is likely to be taken for what it says it is unless there's a good reason to say otherwise.
See if I've got this right
You had a registered car (car A), you bought a new shell for the Zcar (car Z) and have moved the registration from A to Z. you now want to re register car A but are short of a registration?
If both of these cars have shells that are currently registered (are on the dvla database) then the plates and matching V5's should stay with the shells.
If you want to transfer a numberplate, the donor vehicle needs to be on the road - a bit of an over simplification: it's all on the DVLA website.
As said, whether the Z car can just go on the road with the identity of the shell is another issue - depends on how much of the original car is left and how you translate the rules.
They're the rules as I understand them, how you attempt to apply them is up to you. A car with an MoT and a tax disc is likely to be taken for what it says it is unless there's a good reason to say otherwise.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:20 PM
sorry guys i think i have confused you all a bit.
My restoration has had a re shell and that shell came with no documentation so have have given the shell id to the dvla just today so that they no i have re shelled the restoration project.
However the restoration projects old shell which i got so far with then stopped is still in a great condition to be used as the shell for my z cars project whihc is soon to commence.
I was just wanting to no what the score would be with this??By the sounds of it my z cars project is going to have to have a q plate me thinks?
just not very clued up on this area thats all.
many thanks for youre input guys!
Phil
My restoration has had a re shell and that shell came with no documentation so have have given the shell id to the dvla just today so that they no i have re shelled the restoration project.
However the restoration projects old shell which i got so far with then stopped is still in a great condition to be used as the shell for my z cars project whihc is soon to commence.
I was just wanting to no what the score would be with this??By the sounds of it my z cars project is going to have to have a q plate me thinks?
just not very clued up on this area thats all.
many thanks for youre input guys!
Phil
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:27 PM
Sorry I maybe be old but still don't understand.
Let's start at the beginning, your project was a Mini with a shell, running gear, chassis plate & number plates, the shell was too far gone so you bought another shell that had no identification. You used the second shell to restore your project using the first shells running gear, chassis plate & number plate. Am I right so far?
Alan...
Let's start at the beginning, your project was a Mini with a shell, running gear, chassis plate & number plates, the shell was too far gone so you bought another shell that had no identification. You used the second shell to restore your project using the first shells running gear, chassis plate & number plate. Am I right so far?
Alan...
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:45 PM
If I've got this right...
You have a mini which you reshelled with a shell from undetermined source... you have applied to the DVLA for a V5 for this 'unknown' shell using some kind of identifiable mark on the car (hopefully the vin plate or number etched in)... This being the case. you will probably get a request from VOSA for the car tobe inspected, and then probably get a "Q" plate.
The original shell of the vehicle is the entitled holder of the original v5, so, in theory your Z car conversion will take on the reg (identity) of your car before you reshelled it... however, then comes the debate on if it's a radically altered vehicle and again may need an SVA..
You have a mini which you reshelled with a shell from undetermined source... you have applied to the DVLA for a V5 for this 'unknown' shell using some kind of identifiable mark on the car (hopefully the vin plate or number etched in)... This being the case. you will probably get a request from VOSA for the car tobe inspected, and then probably get a "Q" plate.
The original shell of the vehicle is the entitled holder of the original v5, so, in theory your Z car conversion will take on the reg (identity) of your car before you reshelled it... however, then comes the debate on if it's a radically altered vehicle and again may need an SVA..
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:47 PM
Ok, lets call then shell R and shell X, shell R was your restoration with ID, but you then decided to give shell X shell R's ID and make that your restoration. So now your left with shell R that originally had ID but doesn't anymore, you going to use it for your Z Cars conversion, but it has no ID. Yes, it'll be SVA and Q plate I believe.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 06:25 PM
sorry if i have made all of this sound a bit complicated but basiclly your all kinda right !
My restoration is all origional except the shell and yes it came with umber plate and all or the relevent documentation just had a bad shell so to save time i had a go at doing the shell but was taking too long so as i said to save time i bought another shell. as you can see bellow.
However i want to use the shell which i almost sotred and that origionally came with my restoration as the worst of the rot was in the back which gets cut out anyway!
So i have informed the dvla about the re shell but i still want to use the origional shell which came with the restoration for my z car. now what i was wanting to no is how it would all work??Would my restoration keep its origional number plate or would that stay with the origional shell which will be used for my z car?and as a result of re shelling my restoration would it mean that it would have to have a q plate for example and what would happen with all of the plates in the engine bay?
Will have to get some pics up as i havent shown any progress for a very long time!!!
Many Thanks
Phil
My restoration is all origional except the shell and yes it came with umber plate and all or the relevent documentation just had a bad shell so to save time i had a go at doing the shell but was taking too long so as i said to save time i bought another shell. as you can see bellow.
However i want to use the shell which i almost sotred and that origionally came with my restoration as the worst of the rot was in the back which gets cut out anyway!
So i have informed the dvla about the re shell but i still want to use the origional shell which came with the restoration for my z car. now what i was wanting to no is how it would all work??Would my restoration keep its origional number plate or would that stay with the origional shell which will be used for my z car?and as a result of re shelling my restoration would it mean that it would have to have a q plate for example and what would happen with all of the plates in the engine bay?
Will have to get some pics up as i havent shown any progress for a very long time!!!
Many Thanks
Phil
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