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#1 m1n1

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:13 PM

hello.
My pre-verto clutch was slipping; so i have taken it out, but could not find any problems. I chose to renewed the orange diaphram, clean up the friction plate as it was vg condition, then went for the early a+ plunger with floating bearing (all pre-verto)

now i've got it all together it appears that the pushrod which goes inside the slave cylinder is too long; i have released the long arm adjusting nut on the bell housing so that i can move the arm and feel when the release bearing touches the diaphram. this seems ok; and i can actuate the clutch with a long bar, that feels alright.

shall i just cut it down? or have i made a mistake putting things back together..

james

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:22 PM

The slave piston will have moved out - it's supposed to. Use a chunky phillips screwdriver to push it back down the cylinder.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:41 PM

na, when i locate the rod into the slave, the piston is at the outside end, so as i push it home the piston inside moves but comes to a stop. alas its not where it needs to be >_<

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:01 PM

na, when i locate the rod into the slave, the piston is at the outside end, so as i push it home the piston inside moves but comes to a stop. alas its not where it needs to be >_<


It should push back right down the cylinder keep pressing to allow the fluid time to return. If it won't play you may have to strip the slave cylinder it could have worn a groove in itself.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:18 PM

As Ethel says, take the cap off the clutch master resevoir to assist the fluid going back into the resevoir. Place a cloth tightly around the resevoir though to make sure there is no spillage.

The Verto and pre-Verto push rods are the same size, so its not possible that you've got the wrong push rod (if the push rod you have is indeed a standard mini item).

Could it be your clutch arm is bent?

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:47 PM

Just a thunk,

You have unbolted the slave from the transfer case? You won't get the pushrod back in with everything assembled. Might be stating the obvious, if it is sorry.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:30 PM

hmm. clutch long arm is only 3 months old, looks fine to me. I've stripped this 4 times now in about 3 years, i've got it quite sussed now, but this perplexes me!

i can push the slave cylinder onto the pushrod, but it stops in total about 1 inch from the back of it (on the inside) and the bolt holes are about 1cm short of where they need to be.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:35 PM

hmm. clutch long arm is only 3 months old, looks fine to me. I've stripped this 4 times now in about 3 years, i've got it quite sussed now, but this perplexes me!

i can push the slave cylinder onto the pushrod, but it stops in total about 1 inch from the back of it (on the inside) and the bolt holes are about 1cm short of where they need to be.



1 inch short of the closed end sounds about right. I believe the end of the push rod should be between the 2 bolt holes when 'at rest' if the clutch is ok.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:52 PM

Yea, as Ethel says. Draw an imaginary line between the two bolt holes for the slave cylinder. Now, with the clutch arm pushed outwards, just touching the diaphragm the end of the push rod should sit on this imaginary line. If it does, you have a problem with your slave cylinder, if it doesn't then the problem lies with your clutch arm and/or push rod (or the rest of the clutch)!




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