16 replies to this topic

[JoeMcb]

Was just off the phone with the sprayer to see if he could fit me in. Apparently complete resprays are now a thing of the past since 2-pac paints have been banned! He sprayed a car the other day and it still isnt fully dry (apparently oven heating doesnt affect the dry rate only airflow can do it!) He also said that the price of the paint has sky rocketed as its a different type!!

ARGH!

[stickycreambun]

oh I thought it was celly that was being banned tomorrow? I suppose prices are bound to shoot up.

[Jordie]

From what i understood as we have a bodyshop at work, you can still use 2pac paints if you have the right ventalation and waste disposal etc etc.

[dave20046]

oh I thought it was celly that was being banned tomorrow? I suppose prices are bound to shoot up.

No it's 2K i'm very peed off as I wanted to buy my 2k paint today for the respray but the effing shop is closed. So I'm going to have to try and find some erm other paint that isn't 2k from somewhere in the newyear
It's really annoying because they've banned 2k for environmental reasons so you have to use crappy waterbased and the laquer to use with that is 2k based anyway! I know a sprayer (too expensive for me though) and he said respray'll go up by 40%

Edited by dave20046, 31 December 2007 - 03:03 PM.

[TJenkos]

Its being banned to buy by the public, bodyshops can still use it I thought?

[dave20046]

Its being banned to buy by the public, bodyshops can still use it I thought?

I hope that's the case as if you know the right people it should still be reasonably available.

[panelbeaterpeter]

No-one will be able to use the current type of 2K at all. You will be unable to buy 2K basecoat, only waterbase, the lacquer is still technically 2K, but it's a high solid and less harmful to the environment. Water base lacquer is available, but it's not a legal necessity. As for solid colours, the same applies as lacquer.

Celly will only be available to classic car restoration specialists, who will have to get certified as so.

It will be illegal to produce solvent based tinters after the 1st of Jan, anyone caught making them after that date faces a severe fine.

Only when all the remaining tinters have run out, will it be impossible to use it. At the moment there is no date set for when it will be illegal to USE 2k paint.
It will be decided when it seems all the tinters have been used up.

And yeah, respray prices are bound to go up, although we don't' charge any extra for using waterbase at the moment..

I don't understand how that guy has said his paint isn't dry yet, if it's at the correct temperature, and blown with the correct equipment, it dries in about 15 mins at the most. Sounds like an excuse to me.

[JoeMcb]

No-one will be able to use the current type of 2K at all. You will be unable to buy 2K basecoat, only waterbase, the lacquer is still technically 2K, but it's a high solid and less harmful to the environment. Water base lacquer is available, but it's not a legal necessity. As for solid colours, the same applies as lacquer.

Celly will only be available to classic car restoration specialists, who will have to get certified as so.

It will be illegal to produce solvent based tinters after the 1st of Jan, anyone caught making them after that date faces a severe fine.

Only when all the remaining tinters have run out, will it be impossible to use it. At the moment there is no date set for when it will be illegal to USE 2k paint.
It will be decided when it seems all the tinters have been used up.

And yeah, respray prices are bound to go up, although we don't' charge any extra for using waterbase at the moment..

I don't understand how that guy has said his paint isn't dry yet, if it's at the correct temperature, and blown with the correct equipment, it dries in about 15 mins at the most. Sounds like an excuse to me.

I dont think they are set up to use water base lacquer - they always used 2K.... really panicing abotu the price of this spray now... if i'd known about this before now I wouldve got my finger out even more to get the car ready!! :S

[jack_marshall]

I don't understand how that guy has said his paint isn't dry yet, if it's at the correct temperature, and blown with the correct equipment, it dries in about 15 mins at the most. Sounds like an excuse to me.

We're struggling to dry water based to be honest.

Admittedly we're not using the thousands of pounds of air drying equipment but some of the smaller bodyshops like us cannot afford to fund these straight away.

Luckily for us our paint supplier still has alot of tinters for mixing up 2k basecoat, so we're still using that, which is buying us time to get ready for when we have to switch to water base.

On a brighter note, I prefer the high solid 2k solid paints to the old 2k solid paints.

Were classified as 'classic car specialists' but wont be applying for a licence to use celly because.. well, its pants.

[wwinstanley]

will this affect jersey aswell?

[Retro_10s]

Yes. I believe so.

[wwinstanley]

aahhh C**p

[dave20046]

Fear not chaps. I have a certain educated feeling that 2k will still be available for a few months to come

Edited by dave20046, 02 January 2008 - 05:33 PM.

[THedooBZ]

erm i beleive the paint you can have mixed at halfords is celly so does that mean i cannot buy the rest of the paint to finish my respray!!!!!!!!!!

[dave20046]

erm i beleive the paint you can have mixed at halfords is celly so does that mean i cannot buy the rest of the paint to finish my respray!!!!!!!!!!

Doubt it because I bet that isn't solvent based.