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#1 Rob Himself

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 07:59 PM

I'm after a rollcage.

Full one, prefereably.

But what makes a 'good' rollcage or a bad rollcage?

Also... I'd rather go for bolt-in, as it's removeable should I need to, but is that it - literally bolt in and go, no other work needed?

I'm after some recliners and 4 point harnesses too later on, and intend to use the rear rollcage for this. But thought I'd better ask your advice before I go waving my financial willy around :D

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 10:31 PM

I'm after a rollcage.

Full one, prefereably.

But what makes a 'good' rollcage or a bad rollcage?

Also... I'd rather go for bolt-in, as it's removeable should I need to, but is that it - literally bolt in and go, no other work needed?

I'm after some recliners and 4 point harnesses too later on, and intend to use the rear rollcage for this. But thought I'd better ask your advice before I go waving my financial willy around ;)

Thanks TMF!!!

R



just get a Saftey Devices cage, or basicly anything FIA aproved is a safe bit of kit

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 10:34 PM

have you checked its ok with your insurance company

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 10:46 PM

Indeedy I have. My main query is regarding fitting it ...? As above, are bolt-ins really JUST bolt in?

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 10:54 PM

Indeedy I have. My main query is regarding fitting it ...? As above, are bolt-ins really JUST bolt in?



pretty much, the bolting down is easy, the squeezing the rear half in is the hard bit lol, need ratchet straps and a alot of time and patence

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 10:55 PM

I think they are pretty much bolt in, you need to add spreader plates to the underside of the car though. They can be a pig to fit - apparently the smart move is to pull the legs together with a ratchet strap to get it in. If you get one with a harness bar, that will make fitting the harnesses much easier. You also need padding on the bars of the cage near your noggin, don't want to be nutting that in a crash ;)

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 12:47 PM

Sorry for being naive - spreader plates....?

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 01:12 PM

bolting your cage through the sills will keep the cage in place but the sills were never designed to take a roll cage. You will get 6 spreader plates (one for each leg of the cage) these ideally should be welded to the car once you have lined them up as they make the mounting points much beefier and therefore it is less likely for your cage to rip the bolts through the floor in an accident! it also helps tie the cage into the structure of the shell and stiffen the shell up!

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 03:13 PM

Ive just ordered a full safety devices cage from minispares, do you have to weld the plates on? or are there other methods of attatching them?
Ive just painted the underneath of my car ;)

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 03:23 PM

ideally yes as the plate then becomes part of the shell. However, i have seen them just placed on the outside and bolted tight with the cage bolts. I have also seen them welded to the floor inside and the caged then bolted in place. not sure on this method myself though!

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 03:34 PM

ideally yes as the plate then becomes part of the shell. However, i have seen them just placed on the outside and bolted tight with the cage bolts. I have also seen them welded to the floor inside and the caged then bolted in place. not sure on this method myself though!


Welding them on the inside would be the far better method IMO.

If you roll then the legs are going to try and punch their way through the floor, in which case having the plate on the outside will not do anything to stop. Have it welded on the inside and the leg is going to have to puch a much bigger hole if it has the spreader plate between it and the sill.

In an ideal world you would have plates welded on the inside and bolted on the outside. Again just my opinion.

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 03:35 PM

Oh well ill just paint it again :D will give safety devices a call for their guidance on mounting

Ill post a pic here when ive got it in rob so you can see what the safety devices cage looks like, mine has a detatchabe diagonal

Edited by Mini Mad James, 21 January 2008 - 03:39 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2008 - 04:20 PM

ideally yes as the plate then becomes part of the shell. However, i have seen them just placed on the outside and bolted tight with the cage bolts. I have also seen them welded to the floor inside and the caged then bolted in place. not sure on this method myself though!


Welding them on the inside would be the far better method IMO.

If you roll then the legs are going to try and punch their way through the floor, in which case having the plate on the outside will not do anything to stop. Have it welded on the inside and the leg is going to have to puch a much bigger hole if it has the spreader plate between it and the sill.

In an ideal world you would have plates welded on the inside and bolted on the outside. Again just my opinion.


now that makes sense! Plates both sides would be the most ideal solution! but I see the logic for welding in side now! Thanks.




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