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[Black.Ghost]

Does/can anyone else do this?

My mate taught me it a while ago and I began practising in my other Mini. I have sorted Double D Clutching now, but heel-toe braking needs a fair bit of work. I can do it in big army boots - but that really isnt on purpose.

Just wondering if anyone else on here does it at all. Does anyone do it in modern cars?

Edited by TneMini, 19 March 2008 - 11:37 PM.

[M1N1C00P3R1275]

done heel and toe but not very well

Edited by M1N1C00P3R1275, 19 March 2008 - 11:42 PM.

[oli8925]

i started to do a bit of heel-toe when my mini kept dying at idle. whats double d clutching?

[mini93]

do it all the time lol, but then again thats because its in my rally car, you have to blip the accelerator to change down gears, left foot brakings the hard one, hard to controle left leg compaired to right

[Mayfair85]

I do left foot braking quite a bit, my left foot gets bored otherwise, seeing as how I have no clutch....

Not quite sure what the clutching business is and I have no idea what heel toe braking is, someone care to elaborate?

[1an]

i heel and toe in every car where possible, obviously alot of newer cars the accelerator is to far away from the brake pedal. i did it in my E30 to try and preserve the gearbox but that didnt help

[Ethel]

If you've got army boots on you'll find you can toe 'n heel a Bedford
MK pretty well

Double declutching is what you do when 2nd gear synchro goes on your Mini

Gears need to be running at the same speeds to mesh (synchromesh matches the speed by friction) you can acheive the same by changing in to neutral (and giving the accelerator a blip if changing down) before disengaging the clutch again to move the stick in to gear.

bet someones already replied while I was plonking the keys

[Black.Ghost]

i started to do a bit of heel-toe when my mini kept dying at idle. whats double d clutching?

When you change down a gear, you do it in three stages instead of one move. So from fourth to third, you woul dip the clutch and into neutral. Off the clutch and bip the accelerator, different for every car. The idea is to put it at the right number of revs for that gear and speed. After blipping the accelerator, back on the clutch and into the new gear. If you get it right, it provides a really nice gear change. And it gives you slightly better acceleration than if the revs are off.

I tend to double blip the accelerator though whilst in neutral, just to keep the revs up.

As for heel toe, I have done it a couple of times but i havent been able to do itreguarly. Now I have got double d sorted though thats what Ill be practicing for a while. As for left foot braking, I dont think I have tried that. It just doesnt seem too natural. I drove my mates automatic Jag for a bit and even then I still used my right foot for braking.

[Black.Ghost]

If you've got army boots on you'll find you can toe 'n heel a Bedford
MK pretty well

Double declutching is what you do when 2nd gear synchro goes on your Mini

Gears need to be running at the same speeds to mesh (synchromesh matches the speed by friction) you can acheive the same by changing in to neutral (and giving the accelerator a blip if changing down) before disengaging the clutch again to move the stick in to gear.

bet someones already replied while I was plonking the keys

I cant drive a Bedford. Well, I probably could but I don't have it on my little checklist yet. I want to get as many licences as I can before I leave though.

[1an]

one word of advise when left foot breaking for the first time,

remeber when you learnt to drive you almost went through the windscreen when you first used the brakes? prepare for that again.

[Ouster]

one word of advise when left foot breaking for the first time,

remeber when you learnt to drive you almost went through the windscreen when you first used the brakes? prepare for that again.

Haha! So true.
I did this in my Dads Citroen C4 (big disc brakes all around) and I stopped...quite suddenly! When practising, make sure that nobody is behind you and that your seatbelt works!

[Ethel]

The killer with left foot braking is if you're changing gear a bit you tend to press on both pedals with the same force which scrubs the speed off rather more than you intended

It is good on bumpy roads for keeping the car balanced and in touch with the tarmac - just dab the brake just before the top of the lumps.

[Mayfair85]

one word of advise when left foot breaking for the first time,

remeber when you learnt to drive you almost went through the windscreen when you first used the brakes? prepare for that again.

Haha thats true! Especially when you're six foot two and crammed into a standard mini seat with your knees up round the wheel! Your left foot is used to easing off the clutch, not onto the brake. Suprising how akward it is.

[yorkshirechris]

Yeah I tried braking with my left foot in a transit van the first time I tried it... it was interesting

I don't get what heel-toe braking is though...

[alexcrosse]

have to heel toe, or it will destroy my box on down changes. Can double d clutch, aint really much! lol, but dont need to, thats what syncros are for. mini93 has a good excuse tho... he dont hav n e =p