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#46 Ethel

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 11:25 AM

Heel-Toe is really easy when you're 6'6" with size 13 feet! :dontgetit: I do it in all cars but especially the min.


Yess! You mean you've actually found an advantage of having huge feet? Woohoo! :P

I'll get my 14s on the case. Guess I probably shouldn't start messing about with heel-toe and double de-clutching in my Mum's car though :xxx: Bad enough trying to get it into 2nd in the first place.


not so much toe 'n heel as big toe little toe methinks!



I have to take issue with Jammy (well I don't really but a bit of a barny always keeps a thread moving along :thumbsup: ) - toe 'n heel is just a refinement of double declutching. Why would you toe & heel without double declutching?

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:31 PM

Its all about matching engine speed to road speed

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 04:12 PM

Well Ive just driven the Galaxy maybe 120 miles or so. I dont care for it much :P I tried left foot braking haha. That was interesting.

Ill stick to Oliver in future.

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:08 PM

rite, for all those people who thing they have mastered heel toe and left foot braking (including me)... your wrong... guess again, lol

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=_HjXXUyQhPE

watch that :lol:

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:14 PM

i have to since my 2nd syncro is pretty bad coming in from 3rd.

is it just me? or is my brake pedal too high?


rite, for all those people who thing they have mastered heel toe and left foot braking (including me)... your wrong... guess again, lol

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=_HjXXUyQhPE

watch that :lol:


woah... all the photographers and the crowd

and i think he's pass the point of being good....where you wouldnt say he's good at breathing or making his heart beat

Edited by minimarco, 20 March 2008 - 09:17 PM.


#51 Jammy

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:27 PM

rite, for all those people who thing they have mastered heel toe and left foot braking (including me)... your wrong... guess again, lol

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=_HjXXUyQhPE

watch that :P

I taught him everything he knows! :lol:

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:33 PM

rite, for all those people who thing they have mastered heel toe and left foot braking (including me)... your wrong... guess again, lol

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=_HjXXUyQhPE

watch that :P

I taught him everything he knows! :lol:


and i taught you :thumbsup:

#53 Jammy

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:36 PM

You told me the clutch was "wrapping your fingers around the gearknob"! :lol:

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:37 PM

double d clutching normally gets you a slap allegedly! :lol:

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:37 PM

I double declutch and heel and toe everywhere, even if I'm just pootling around in traffic. Sounds magnificent with the K&N at low revs in traffic, and when I'm pulling up somewhere lol. Sounds even better at high revs downshifting, when the exhaust starts singing aswell hehe

Its all about the noise baby! :lol:

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:51 PM

You told me the clutch was "wrapping your fingers around the gearknob"! :lol:


i never had to teach you to clutch your knob... you did that all by yourself jammy!

ill give it about 30 seconds before the word 'sock' appears in this thread, lol.

Edited by alexcrosse, 20 March 2008 - 09:52 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:58 PM

Heel-Toe is really easy when you're 6'6" with size 13 feet! :dozing: I do it in all cars but especially the min.


Yess! You mean you've actually found an advantage of having huge feet? Woohoo! :lol:

I'll get my 14s on the case. Guess I probably shouldn't start messing about with heel-toe and double de-clutching in my Mum's car though :wub: Bad enough trying to get it into 2nd in the first place.


not so much toe 'n heel as big toe little toe methinks!



I have to take issue with Jammy (well I don't really but a bit of a barny always keeps a thread moving along :P ) - toe 'n heel is just a refinement of double declutching. Why would you toe & heel without double declutching?


Technically you don't need to be double de-clutching to use heel and toe. You may just prefer to use on foot when a perfectly good left foot is there :thumbsup:

But seriously, heel and toe is just a method of operating 3 pedals with 2 feet. You can use it when double de-clutching while braking, or you may just want to blip the throttle while braking and downshifting.

Both operations are very similar, just one involves [brake] shift to neutral, pivot heel to press throttle, clutch in, select gear, clutch out [/brake] and the other is [brake] clutch in, pivot heel to blip throttle, select gear, clutch out [/brake]

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Posted 21 March 2008 - 09:36 AM

Watch Initial D, It will answer all your questions. Some good Driving on there.

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Posted 21 March 2008 - 10:40 AM

Thats drifting, something different really. The idea to unsettle the car into oversteer for as long as possible.

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Posted 21 March 2008 - 10:45 AM

Thats drifting, something different really. The idea to unsettle the car into oversteer for as long as possible.



i think jammy is right :D




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